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SPECULATION Count Dooku's Sith Name

Discussion in 'Prequel Trilogy' started by PoeReyMi, Mar 5, 2015.

  1. PoeReyMi

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    I have always wondered this. The only person who actually uses Count Dooku's sith name Darth Tyrannus is Sidious.

    Why do they continue to call him Count Dooku even after he has become a different person altogether?
    Even Grievous calls him Dooku and Anakin calls him Count.

    I could make the argument that Dooku is still called Dooku because everyone knew him when he was a jedi as Dooku...however, everyone knew Darth Vader as Anakin (i.e. Tarkin) yet they still call him Vader and the persona of Anakin Skywalker is dead.

    Anybody have an answer for me?
     
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    Well he did come from a noble family from the planet Serenno, I guess the counts were respected back before the clone wars.
     
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    Is that canon? I've never heard that before.
     
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    Back in October last I was visiting another forum website when I saw another user post about it,
     
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    Interesting. I have always thought it very intetresting that Dooku seems to be the only sith who is not referred to by Darth suchandsuch
     
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    I guess Yoda being his original master felt he could bring him back to the jedi fold, their duel in Geonosis proved he was gone beyond saving
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    Very true. I wonder if his hope was to bring him back to the light.
     
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    Not trying to treat this as cross bonding with other species but I think when a master takes on a apprentice there is the caring nature of a father figure that developes were others concerns are not as important as the goal of redemption, I thought it was strange of Sidious to choose a older jedi instead of pursuing Anakin sooner, he would not have need Maul as a apprentice had his spies been active on Tatooine.
     
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    I think he knew all along that Dooku was temporary. He was expendable but he was also very powerful. He knew that when Anakin defeated Dooku he was ready to be Sidious' apprentice.
     
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    Indeed, I wonder if Kenobi had of awoken early from being knocked out & heard Sidious give the order kill Dooku would duel on Mustafar may have started early on the Iron Fist, just saying.
     
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    No one knows Vader is Anakin. Tarkin has suspisions but that's it, only Palpatine knows.
     
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    Really?! How have I not known this? I always thought people just feared him too much to call him Anakin.
     
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    It's in the Tarkin novel.
     
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    I should probably read that

    Also sorta unrelated but apparently Maul is Darth Maul's given name? But he went by Darth Maul? #DarthAnakin #DarthSheev #DarthCount
     
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    Wasn't the whole point of Palpatine taking on Dooku as an apprentice to more directly manipulate the creation of the CSI and the road to war?

    That being the case, the rest of the galaxy needed to see him as Count Dooku - not a sinister agent of the Sith, but as a respected Jedi who left the Order to stand against the growing corruption of the Republic. To the key players in the CSI, financiers and weapons dealers, his identity as Lord Sidious' second in command was obviously something that they were aware of. But then again, they didn't need to be conned into playing along out of any sense of idealism - they were in it for the money and the power. Same with Jango Fett.

    But those who needed to buy into the fiction that the CSI was a reaction to a corrupt Republic, including the Senate and the Jedi, had to see Dooku leading it. Had he led the confederacy as Darth Tyrannus, that would have overplayed Palpatine's hand.
     
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    Wow that's a great point. Dooku's position of power within the CIS I'm sure definitely factored into it and makes sense that he would go by Dooku...

    However, once Anakin, Obi-Wan, Mace, Yoda all learned that he was a sith they still used "Count Dooku." Something I just thought of was the fact that it could be seen as a sign of intentional disrespect toward Tyrannus to call him Dooku because he no longer identifies as Dooku. They call him Dooku because they don't respect him enough to call him Tyrannus....though on second thought it could be that they just didn't want to learn another name.
     
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    The best fact that completely supports your theory is the fact that the galaxy continued to know the Emperor as Palpatine, and not Sidious. They weren't averse to being associated with Sith, but weren't necessarily known as Sith by the public, for basic relations reasons.
     
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    They probably didn't know he was "Tyrannus."
     
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    Well Sidious did mention it on Coruscant in TATOC, the jedi maybe were not meant to know being distracted with Maul's presence in TPM.
     
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    Sidious mentioned it to the Jedi in Attack of the Clones?
     
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