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Crazy theory but...

Discussion in 'Star Wars: The Force Awakens' started by DarthLuketheWise, Dec 23, 2015.

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    ... I do not believe Rey is Luke's daughter at all, as obvious as that has been portrayed in the film. I would like her to be Han and Leia's but it was pretty evident that is not the case (still could be I suppose). Nor do I believe that she is somehow a descendant of Ben Kenobi, though the accent lends some curious merit to this. I'm of the mind that Obi Wan and Luke had far more pressing responsibilities while in their communion with the Force - Ben on Tatooine and Luke post ROTJ - than to shack up somehow and start a family. Not the Jedi way.

    Clearly she is the offspring of a powerful Force user but who could that be if none of the above? Is it in the realm of possibility that she was in fact born of the Dark Side? That she is a direct descendant of Sith Lord Sideous himself? (Curiously enough, Palpatine had an English accent too). Or perhaps Snoke.. but do we know that Snoke is a Sith Lord?

    I'm fascinated by this possibility, as outlandish as it sounds. It would lend even more weight to that emotional final scene, how Luke looks upon her with a whole range of emotions but also recognition and perhaps.. fear. This could set the stage for what could be Luke Skywalker's greatest challenge yet.

    Not only will Luke have to harness Rey from her lineage of the Dark Side, he may also face the desperate task of turning a conflicted Ben Solo back to the light in order to defeat her or Snoke or both.

    But like I said.. just a crazy theory lol. Thoughts?
     
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    Snoke isn't human. Just saying.
    But... Rey could be something like Anakin (if you buy into the theory that Plageuis created Anakin).

    I'll actually be worried if Rey isn't Luke's daughter though.
    Even though Kylo is from the Skywalker line, he is a Solo... and the odds of him continuing the family line after this trilogy are remote.
    If Disney intend to continue the Star Wars saga, they need a Skywalker to continue the family... for that to happen through Kylo, he must be redeemed by the end of the trilogy AND survive... but then it's still not really about the Skywalkers... it becomes a story about the Solos.
     
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    Good point about Snoke.. we really don't know much about him at all. But yeah, certainly doesn't appear to be human lol.

    And I get what you're saying for sure. If Rey is to somehow give in to the Dark Side, it's possible she could be redeemed as well as Ben/Kylo. But maybe by the end of this trilogy our focus will turn from the Skywalkers and take a new direction. I think Luke will play an important part either way but ultimately meet his end.

    All wild speculation of course. I'd like her to be Luke's daughter. I just think there may be something larger at work here.
     
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    Rey being Lukes daughter is too obvious. There'll be a big shock reveal about her parents ala Luke/Vader. Nobody saw that one coming - except if you're Dutch ("Vader"=Father). ;)
     
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    haha great point. I'm also intrigued by the fact the music turned rather sinister when Rey finally reaches the summit and first lays eyes on Luke. That had to mean something?
     
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    It's a good point.

    What I want to speak to is "the jedi way."

    I think the Jedi stance on abstinence is old school. I have a feeling that Luke channeled his original "feelings" toward Leia (which obviously couldn't come to frution with the new knowledge of her being his sister. lolz) in a different direction and really did find a fancy force lady who he hit it off with during his adventures following Ep. VI.

    There's a great theory that his lady friend could be Lor Tekka's daughter and that would make Lor Rey's grandpa looking after her on Jakku. See linked thread. :) It's a good one:

    https://thecantina.starwarsnewsnet.com/index.php?threads/lor-san-tekka-grandfather-of-rey.7928/
     
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    The only way Rey could be a Solo is if she was snatched at birth...and only a Jedi could pull that off.
     
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    I think we shouldn't put too much stock into the accents. Accents aren't genetic, so they don't really point to anyone in particular.

    I do however like the idea that she's not Luke's daughter, but rather somehow related to someone else who may have had some Dark Side past. It could lead to some further interesting things considering her abandonment and the almost frantic/rushed nature of it.
     
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    It's pretty obvious that Luke has turned to the dark side and is a super-powerful sith lord, and that he created her just as Darth Plageuis created Anakin.
     
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    She sound too much like An Amidala and not enough like A Skywalker based on her accent, so what if she has a relation to both Skywalkers and Solos but isn't either so she's still a fresh but familiar character .
     
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    I hope not. I would rather it be something sensible and obvious than something out of left field in order to try to recreate that Darth Vader reveal moment in the middle episode.
     
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    hahaha.. well that certainly would be an interesting twist xD He was wearing some pretty impressive Jedi robes though, so I kinda doubt it
     
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    After watching the movie for the first time, I felt that Rey was Luke's daughter. I saw the movie again last night and I do not believe she's his daughter anymore, but I'm convinced they met before, propably at Luke's new academy.

    Remember the scene where Rey has her vision? Right after Maz come to her, they exchange some dialogue and here's what's stuck with me this time around :

    Maz : Dear child, I know your eyes, the people you're waiting for, you know they're never coming back. But there's someone else who could.
    Rey: Luke?

    So, there you have it, I believe Rey was trained by Luke at an early age, and I love the theory that she is of ''Sith'' heritage. Could it be that she was the one who destroyed his academy and let's say ''infected'' Ben with the power of the dark side? Luke pulled a Knights of the Old Republic, erased Ben and Rey's memory and dropped them off. Ben got picked up by Snoke, got initiated into the Knights of Ren and then Ep. 7 happens.

    I have to watch the movie another time to see if this holds up.
     
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    from what i've gathered (from the film and from the review of the novel), Ben recognizes Rey and knows something about her past. this says to me that Rey must've been present at the Jedi academy when Ben went bad. my guess (which others have also fleshed out) is that Ben took Rey to Jakku and dumped her, either out of compassion (not to kill her outright), or in fear that if he did kill her it would be bad news for him. in all fairness, it may very well be both.

    with this in mind, why would he care about this young child, why not just kill her? perhaps they're related and he couldn't bring himself to do it. why would he fear killing her? maybe she's the daughter of an important and powerful figure. at any rate, i believe he made it out like he had indeed killed her and she was remembered as having died many years ago. who expects someone to come back from the grave like that? that would be a very shocking reveal for whoever expected her to be long dead.

    on the Tekka relationship theory, i think that's a bunch of hoohaw. why would grandpa not reveal himself as a person to trust and talk with? as far as we're aware Rey didn't have any friends (other than those two kids that trick her, and of course chummy ol' Unkar). it's an interesting thought, but it doesn't really carry any water.
     
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    We know that there were other force users studying under Luke, Rey could be related to any of them. Not to mention that Rey could literally be just a random person who has no prior ties to the original cast at all, although that seems unlikely.
     
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    I see that coming too. "Red herrings, red herrings everywhere!"
     
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    But who is to say the big reveal is about who her parents are? What if it's something else, like how people are speculating that Kylo is the one who saved her and dropped her off on Jakku? Granted, people have been speculating that already so it wouldn't be a big surprise either, but it's certainly less expected than Rey being Luke's daughter.
     
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    All the "bad" guys speak British in all of the movies with here and there an exception..
    She is also talking British..
     
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    Anybody checked out the Max Landis (Hollywood screenwriter) YouTube post about Rey?

    He referred to Rey as a "Mary Sue" - someone who is just automatically good at everything like piloting and fixing the millennium falcon and using force abilities. He argued that Luke could in no way be related to Rey because of the many human flaws that he had.
    However , I did not remember him mentioning anything about Anakin. Anakin was also "automatically" good at everything, such as flying spacecraft he has never flown before, like in the phantom menace.
    It seems Rey is more "akin" to Anakin then Luke, even though there may be no blood relation. There may be a possibility that she was conceived of the force, just like Anakin, and not by natural means.
     
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    Hmmm. Interresting...Anakin was good in everything indeed... And now we see Rey is also good with everything from repairing to flying just like Anakin..
    Stuff for me to wonder..
     
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