Criticisms Of Rogue One

Having Vader make a pun at that point wouldn't have been my first choice, but it wasn't as bad as I anticipated...and the way he disdainfully lowered his hand and walked away as the Imperial March kicked in made it better.

 

i found it (and his goiter in that scene) to be distracting, unfortunately ~ hahaha

 

The neck did look too large, I'll give you that! I also thought his Monty Python servant was...strange. The dude was even smiling as he said, "My Lord, yadda yadda..." as if he knew he looked goofy and out of place.

 

hahaha ~ yes! i did think he was Palpatine at first, walking in. and then he became the dirty peasant from the Holy Grail yammering on about how you can't expect to wield supreme executive power just because some watery tart throws a sword at you.

 

I really question the entire purpose of the bacta tank scene. Seeing Mustafar in this movie was cool, but this isn't a movie about Vader, we hardly even see Vader anyways, and it just seems like an unnecessary side element. Unless it was meant to show new fans that Vader was this badly wounded guy. But it felt out of place to me.

 

it was all just fan service as far as i'm concerned. on that note i just let it go. i'm not going to nitpick the movie for all that silliness. that opening sequence of Galen telling Lyra and Jyn they had to run should have been a tense dramatic moment, but the audience was roaring with laughter at the blue milk. i wish the directors wouldn't do this, but i get it: it's fun to play with the familiar in this world and lots of people love it.

 

It's purpose is to introduce Vader before he steps into the narrative proper (both for the final scenes and A New Hope).
I'd wager the choice of locale (without introduction text for the planet) and the glimpses of him in the tank serve the dual purpose of establishing his place in the Empire (secluded, cultish - thematically continued in A New Hope) and mirroring his sorry physical state last seen in ep3 (in the process effectively displacing those memories and distancing OT Vader from Noooo Vader).

Of course you also get a nice addition to canon by showing something we've often heard about in the old EU: Castle Vader.

 

I gave it a 9, here and in IMDB. But maybe I will change the rating later, I just saw the movie once.
Some things that I dislike after watching just once:

- I was waiting a creative introduction, the way they show the logo was weak;
- They created so many cool aliens and where are them??;
- The main characters are not so charismatic like the ones we see in TFA for example.
- I dont know what to think about the soundtrack, but I didnt see nothing special in the first hearing, I will pay attention in my second viewing.

 

Sure it has hyperdrive ( how would it ever get to any system if it didnt ) but that only takes you so far.
The mass of planet sized objects will quickly overwhelm the hyperdrive even when fueled by the enormous output of the Deathstar's main reactor modules.
Smaller ships have a more favorable reactor output to mass ratio and can therefore make the jump to lightspeed even if close to large masses.
The massive Deathstar has to traverse these orbital "waters" at sublight speeds.

I may or may not have made that up.

 

8/10...I gigged it 2 points for the music. John Williams' score drove the plot. Take his score away from ANH and it drops at least 2 points--his music is just that good.

 

I didn't think it needed it before but it didn't feel right not having an opening crawl and the music was just alright.

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He was by far my favorite character. A calm and collected warrior.

 

I think they were incredibly powerful and they never took away. i

There was something oh so poetic about Krennic's death and I loved it.
Being destroyed by that which consumed him. His thirst and hunger for power put him in the position to be destroyed by it.

 

Actually, I think Krennic was trying an audience with the Emperor. Tarkin didn't give this chance, so he seeked Vader who, however disagreed with the strategic to destroy jedha ("a city destroyed?!"), prefers not to engage the decision of his friend Tarkin.

In essence, I found the objective of the scene more to show Krennic's tireless need for climbing in the hierarchy positions of the Empire.

 

I will try to only address things that have not already been mentioned, except that I want to say that the biggest criticism I have of the movie is that the characters are flat. I just didn't really feel any empathy for them. The only death I was sad about was K2's.

Now, on to other things:

1. Overall, the movie looked great visually. But at times, it just seemed over done. There were shots of planets that seemed too "sci-fi" or fake.
2. Similarly, some of the spaceships looked too CGI and odd.
3. Cassian Andor was too weak of a character for his lead position. Overall, I find him pretty forgettable.
4. Tarkin showed very poor judgment and was allowed to get away with it. I started a separate thread about this.
5. Too many action movie cliches. For example, leading the audience to believe that Cassian was dead, just to have him surprisingly show up just in time to shoot Krennic and save Jyn. This was weak.
6. Saw Garrera was underused. (I know this was mentioned before, but it bugs me.)
7. Finally, I felt that Vader looked off for some reason. He just wasn't right, but I can't put my finger on it. On second viewing, I thought maybe his cape was too closely closed around his neck, but not sure.

 

Not really, since it isn't about the title, score or crawl with TFA . TFA is blasted for having very similar beats to A New Hope. There is a big difference between wanting a crawl or use of the original music and having similar story beats. Pretty big difference. And I love both movies.

 

1. Title Logo - I wish they used the title card from the trailers. Outlined serif font is a no-no.

2. Captions - I don't mind it in a standalone. Saves me time looking it up later.

3. Re-shoots - I'm impressed how hard they worked to make the ending they wanted. But some very iconic shots ended up being cut which makes me sad.

4. Planets - I loved all the planets but the wide shot of Ring of Kafrene looked like something out of Guardians of the Galaxy...

5. Inappropriate Cameos - Both the Evazan/Ponda Baba, and C3PO/R2D2 made you stop and wonder what theyre even doing there in the context of ANH. I don't appreciate the fan service.

6. Music - It was much better on my 2nd viewing.

7. Vehicles - I loved all the vehicles and have unique roles to R1.

8. Darth Vader - I feel like JEJ and Lucasfilm can't seem to recreate the same voice work of the original trilogy.

9. The Death Star Origins - No one person built the Death Star. Galen take credit for what he oversaw, the reactor/weapon system.

10. CGI Tarkin & Leia - Looked great on my 2nd viewing where I'm not analyzing it

Conclusion : This movie adds much to the over all lore of the Rebellion, Empire, and even the force. I loved the characters and action. And it adds to ANH. Reading Catalyst, and watching R1 and ANH is a cool experience.

 

It's a criticisms thread, im just stating my views on why I thought the film could of been better than what I viewed it as and why I didnt love it like a SW film. That's why its a message board about the film. about SW in all. The one thing that I loved about the film is this:

- I understand their purpose and "Hope" they want to push to somehow stop the Death Star.
- Jyn was the key player in the film cause without her they wouldnt known of the "Stardust" plans
- The whole crew died for THE GREATER GOOD. I loved the sacrifice(which wasnt much to me) they showed when they didnt want to go to scarif but Jyn was like like all or nothing.
- We will never forget now but we would never knew who if we never asked the question.

Here's a question. If the Rebels crew was the one who found the stolen plans would you have liked it more since its a animated series?

 

My only criticism would be that, given their hesitancy, I do kind of question would people actually rally to attack against a heavily guarded and shielded Imperial Installation (Scarif) just because a small contingency went forward to get the plans anyway. If you thought it was a suicide mission, why join? I mean, in the end, they were very close in their assessment of how costly a battle it was. A ton of people didn't come back from that one.

It kind of had a "Leroooooooooy Jenkins" feel to it. Like they didn't want to attack, but since someone went ahead and rushed in, they all just fell in line and attacked anyway.

 

Two criticisms with the Saw Guerra scene.

It was quite coincidental that a message for Saw and Jyn surfaced right before Jyn reunited with Saw after maybe 5+ yrs apart. Saw said as much "this day of all days" so at least they acklowledge the coincidence. But still... i guess the force willed it.

And the Bor Gullus scene was pointless, and silly. Like TFAs rathtar creatures... Bor Gullus didnt seem to help Bodhi prove his truthfulness so what was the point?