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Daisy Ridley: Fans Will Know the Complete Story Behind Reys Parents by the End of The Rise of Skywalker

Discussion in 'Star Wars: The Rise of Skywalker' started by SWNN Probe, Jul 1, 2019.

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    I refuse to continue to debate facts with people who clearly don't want to listen or see things as they are, so once again I will take my leave of this conversation.
     
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    “I would be worried if everybody across the board was like ‘yeah, it was a good movie’ it’s much more exciting to me when you get a group of people who are coming up to you who are really really excited about it. Then there are other people who walk out literally saying ‘it’s the worst movie I’ve ever seen.’ Having those two extremes is the mark of the type of movie that I want to make.” - RJ 2003

    It is in his DNA. It is how he goes about his business. It is who he is as a writer/director. TLJ was very much just like he wanted it to be. He has self-confessed that he gets off on subversion and division.
     
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    Don't worry, LFL is afraid of losing its fan base so there will be a load of fan service in tROS, and there will be those that complain that LFL is pandering to its audience. History repeats itself, the majority of Star Wars fans were disappointed by TPM, so Lucas gave them Boba Fett's father in AOTC, yet they still complained, so here we are again. TLJ a divisive Star Wars Film will be followed by a fan service filled one to keep the masses happy, somewhat. Rey nobody will be retconned; don't worry LFL has you in their best interest this time. ROTS saved the prequel trilogy, so TROS will save the sequel trilogy... history repeats itself.

    What kills me is now the prequels are talked about as if they are great films... I guess in 10-20 years the same will be said of the sequel trilogy.
     
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    I wouldn't pay too much attention to what Daisy Ridley says. She's an actress. An actress in a contract. She's paid on-screen and off-screen to behave and speak in a certain way that benefits her employers. The job of actor could also be described as "professional liar".

    Please remember, Daisy Ridley is not a Star Wars fan. She's said that she'd never seen Star Wars before been given the part of Rey. So to her, Star Wars is just an acting job, that leads to other acting jobs in her future career.

    You think she's like us and watches Star Wars DVD's, reads Star Wars novels, plays Star Wars videogames, goes to Star Wars conventions in her own free time and cares about all the stories and characters as we do? Of course not.

    She's being used as an easily recognisable mouthpiece of the Disney corporation, who are paying her to say good or interesting things about the next Star Wars film, in an effort that to Disney's hopes, brings the angry and disappointed fans back to the cinemas which earns Disney yet more money.
     
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    That doesn’t mean she doesn’t give us accurate information. Of course she is limited in what she can say. However, in this case she is basically telling us we are going to get some more back story on her parents. Where we as fans have to be careful is when we speculate what that information is going to be that we don’t misconstrue the speculation as fact. She has told us that we are getting more information but not what that info might be.
     
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    Similar to The Last Jedi, Abrams turned in his story pitch to Lucasfilm when TLJ was released. I'm sure there's been some changes as production went along, but I don't think JJ was making changes because a tiny minority is upset on the internet. I won't be surprised if TROS has more fan service, but that's pretty natural after a challenging middle chapter.
     
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    That’s a pretty common modus operandi among artists that work independently. There is nothing vicious or controversial in that statement. The best art is always subversive. That’s the reason why Luca’s wacky and grotesque space opera made such an impression. That’s why we are all here in this board today.
     
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    He made a film 89% of people liked. I'm 40 and there's always a vocal group of Star Wars fans angry online. The last thing a filmmaker wants to be called is boring.
     
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    Where are you getting this 89% number? I can tell you that my SW friends are pretty much 50/50 hate it/don’t hate it. Notice I said don’t hate it. I don’t know anyone that flat out adores this film. Rotten Tomatoes audience score is 44%. Critic score is 91. Whatever that tells you.
     
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    I agree and really like Rey as a nobody, I like the Idea that the person who is now going to take the Jedi forward either defeat or save the last of the Skywalker linieage is just some random come from a hard background. There's something beautiful in that.

    What i didn't particularly like is a two films worth of build up just to go ow she is no one, and may have known all along. Just felt like setting up mystery for mystery's sake. So now I kind of want them to do something with her lineage just to justify that amount of build up and screen time.
     
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    I sent you a PM. I don't want to drag this off topic.
    One curious thing about the Thrawn series is that it's revealed that the Chiss call force users "Sky Walkers." The Chiss uses young female force users to navigate hyperspace in thin Unknown Regions. Hopefully there will be more information about this in the new Thrawn book.
     
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    It was important for Rey's growth not to know about her parents, to be held back by the empty hope of them coming back, to question their identity now that she is accepting her new powers... The audience needed/needs to experience this journey with her. As JJ says, "mystery is at the service of character". it is not mystery for mystery's sake.
     
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    If only there was actual cohesion between the books/animated and the films I would be excited by information like that.
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    In TFA it was about her being in denial and finally accepting her family wasn't returning. It seemed she moved on at the end. Had a new family with Chewie and Finn, etc. Then Rian introduces a new twist, now Rey wants to know WHO her parents are. In the mirror scene, Rian could have easily had her remember her being abandoned and we could have seen her parents do it. That would have been impactful and given us closure moving into the final chapter.
     
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    Yeah i found that really interesting too when I read those books. I can't see how it come be connected the the Skywalker lineage though.

    I do find the Chiss really interesting in the new Thrawn books, I'm hoping we get to go to there in the new book.
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    I disagree, you go through Froce Awkans and their is constant lines like, "Big secret" "Whose the girl" that isn't a journey of discorvey that telling the audience their is a mystery here.
    Also in the last Jedi you have the line something like "maybe you knew all along" which imply's she may have even known.

    For me it plays like JJ doing his JJ thing and setting up a mystery while Rian did a subversion going sort of mirroring the opposite of Empire.
     
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    Can we start begging Lucasfilm to adopt ideas from the books into mainstream films? There are some great ideas that should be adapted and explored on the big screen. They need to stop hiring filmmakers that aren't knowledgeable about the universe. The best Star Wars over the last 10 years has not been in the films.
     
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    Agreed (maybe with the exception of Rogue One)

    I'm not a massive comic book reader or a huge Marvel fan, but it's undeniable what they have done brilliantly is look at the decades of great story's they have, and adapt then to make versions for live action.

    Star Wars has that great depth of material, both new cannon and legends that they could pick and chose from and bring to the big screen, it would be bonkers for them not to try something similar.
     
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    It's not the filmmakers' responsibility to be aware of the wider interconnected SW universe; that's what the Story Group exists for.

    And what happens outside of the films is very much connected to the contents of each film, even if it isn't overt. That's the entire point of making all Star Wars material explicitly and equally Canon.
     
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    The “Big Secret” line in TFA is a widely misinterpreted scene. Rey is not saying her background is a big secret. She is being sarcastic to BB8. BB8 says his information is classified. Not happy with that answer Rey gives her response. Her tone and body language definitely gives off a sarcastic vibe over one where she is giving actual information
     
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    Right now it's a one way street. They are writing expanded universe stuff to fit the films. My hope is one day there will be a two way street. I honestly think we are getting closer to that with Favreau and Filoni working together on projects. We may finally see what is created for the small screen expanded upon on the big screen.

    The story group is a miserable failure in my opinion. They are there just to make sure the filmmakers don't do something that will contradict another SW property. I was hoping they would actually be the advocates for ideas used in other properties that could be explored in the films.
     
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    Bingo!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

    If you look at TFA's contents without any interpretational bias whatsoever, there is very little actual "mystery" to the film in terms of the questions that it leaves unanswered, as is further proven by the numerous instances we have of individuals associated with the franchise personally and directly debunking and clarifying misconceptions about the film.
     
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