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Daisy Ridley Promises The Rise of Skywalker Will Address the Highly Debated Reylo Thing

Discussion in 'Star Wars: The Rise of Skywalker' started by SWNN Probe, Oct 17, 2019.

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    Star Wars fans have been debating 'Reylo' for years now, and Daisy Ridley has promised that The Rise of Skywalker will not skim over the highly debated issue of whether there will be a romantic relationship between Rey and Kylo Ren.





    In an interview with Entertainment Weekly, Daisy Ridley reveals that the concept is definitely brought up in film:

    To say it's a 'complex issue' is putting it lightly, considering the events of the The Force Awakens that ended with the death of Han Solo and Rey inflicting a huge scar across Kylo Ren's face. Follow that up with Rey's decision to reject him, instead choosing to save and stay with her friends in The Last Jedi, and it's clear that any kind of romantic connection would not come easy in the final film.



    Daisy also admitted that she is well aware of the shipping, and that she enjoys listening to people's theories:

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    The Last Jedi certainly ratcheted up that passion among fans, some of whom have been debating 'Reylo' since The Force Awakens. It's an intriguing relationship that has left fans desperate to know what will become of Rey and Kylo Ren's connection by the end of the Skywalker Saga.



    Thanks to Daisy Ridley, we know that fans will get an answer one way or another when The Rise of Skywalker arrives on December 19, 2019.





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    Good for them, tackling the issue head on I guess...
     
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    I think the possibility of Reylo is remote. In the throne room scene (TLJ) Rey made her choice to serve the Light, and rejected Kylo offer for them to be together Post-Modern Darkness. The chances are 98% that there will be no Reylo, especially because it would undermine the woman impowerment messsage and promote an archaic romance plotline. The other 2% requires that Ben survive his redemption and JJ wanting to go more traditional.
     
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    Addressing Reylo and being a Reylo thing are two different things. What I get out of it is that there will be kind of a thing there that will never be. Meaning feelings, etc, but can't happen. But they will always have something between them.
     
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    Ah yes, "the highly debated Reylo thing"... You mean the only thing that could give this trilogy any kind of heart, the connection that's supposed to do for TROS what the connection between Luke and Vader did for ROTJ. THAT thing... Yeah I'm sure they'll deal with it quickly and pretend it never happened, don't worry.

    Lol
     
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    Only if the story they tell is Rey needing Kylo. They can have a mature relationship where Reylo happens, but Rey doesnt need Kylo and it can be tragic where Kylo doesnt survive. Nothing says Rey has to fall into Kylo arms as a whimpering bowl of jello which would undermine the empowerment message. It could be reverse. She could be the strong powerful part of the relationship and Kylo falls into her arms as the whimpering bowl of jello. Then again they could do it without any whimpering bowl of jello.

    To me it doesnt matter if they do or dont Reylo for me, just whatever they do it has to be done well. Star Wars works best when it isnt like most blockbuster films with the conclusion isnt simple bad guys lose to good guys. Star Wars is rooted in myths and heroes journey and a Reylo story fits that well.
     
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    It’s interesting to see many posts online about how Rey and Kylo will not end up together, that Rey will kill him because she hates him, or that Kylo will fall even deeper to the dark side.

    Rey and Kylo’s force connection is the primary aspect of the sequel trilogy. On top of that they both are in some ways foils to each other, but also quite similar.

    Both are lonely, isolated, and have little trust in others. Their connection with each other is one of the truly meaningful interactions they have with another person in the galaxy (Rey also has Finn and Leia, but her dynamic with Kylo has an added layer of spirituality).

    And, Kylo doesn’t fault her for it — he isn’t disgusted, irritated, or scared of her. Instead he is intrigued by her and believes in her ability.

    On the other hand, Rey is coming into her own force powers all while coming from nothing, not like the Skywalker grandson, who after having everything, falls to the dark side.

    It would be compelling if they ended up together, either as companions or romantic partners, because it illustrates that no one is beyond redemption and that our past sins shouldn’t determine our future, if we are willing to redeem ourselves. Also, why shouldn’t these two lonely force users find companionship at the end of the trilogy? They certainly deserve if after all they’ve been through.
     
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    I sense that if there is no Reylo thing or else, then it will be like TLJ for some. I personally don't like or want a Reylo thing and yet it still has heart.
     
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    The "reylo thing" is the heart of this trilogy and being adamantly against it is unfathomable to me personally. Maybe you're more excited for other plot points and that's fine, but to be in denial that seeds have been planted in both TFA and TLJ to make it a possibility... wow. I don't know what's going to happen in TROS, but I have my own theories (based on canon).
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    So strong women don't need/deserve men? But it's a-okay for every male superhero to have a female love interest?

    I guess women are only strong if they do it solo.
     
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    That’s interesting. I personally found Rey and Kylo to be the most interesting part of TLJ.

    The directors have said time and time again that Rey and Kylo are “dual protagonists,” JJ Abrams claimed that everything in the first half of TFA was leading to the main event which was the interrogation scene, and Rian Johnson used touching hands to symbolize as close of a sex scene as you’d ever get in Star Wars.

    I think it’s safe to say that “Reylo,” whatever that may mean (antagonistic, friendship, friendlier, romantic interests), will be an important dynamic in TRoS.

    It’s really about the kind of story the writers want to tell, not necessarily about who likes what story arc. But clearly there is a significant part of the fandom and general audience who is at least intrigued by the concept.
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    As a female, thank you for pointing this out.

    I don’t think most people mean it when they claim things like that, but it irks me that a heroine/female protagonist is seen as less powerful if she has a romantic subplot. Love humanizes characters, it makes them more dynamic and relatable because everyone in one way or another has experienced love.
     
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    I don't want to speak for him, but I'm fairly certain he means he doesn't want a romantic Reylo.

    Reylo is already a thing, they've existed as allies (even if very temporary), enemies and something that can't quite be labeled. Still, people want more than that, way more. And for a good chunk of those people you can already sense that if they don't get that, they're gonna be quite upset.
     
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    Like some fans did with TLJ? It’s art. It’s subject to various interpretations and people connect with art it meaningful ways. It’s understandable that people were upset about TLJ and some may be upset with TRoS.
     
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    Me kiss Rey? Yuck! (kylo ren)
     
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    Yes. Probably true. Know why? Because it is impossible to deliver on people's expectations.
     
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    You can please some of the people all of the time, you can please all of the people some of the time, but you can't …” … please all the people all of the time” (Poet John Lydgate as made famous by Abraham Lincoln).
     
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    I always thought the focus on a romantic relationship between Rey and Ben being the Vader/Luke "love triumphs over darkness" surrogate was misplaced. We see in the first film how important family is to this trilogy. Rey doesn't have one and waits for her family to return. Han has run from his even though he still has Chewie. Leia has her adopted family in the Resistance but her true family is spread out and isn't communicating. And Ben has run from home, betrayed by those he trusted most to a manipulative mentor who feeds him darkness like an addict. This confused boy sees power in his grandfather, but also the power and control to shed his addiction and return to what he truly wants. He is in pain so he wants to cause pain to those that he blames; his father, his uncle, his mother, and himself. Everyone else is collateral damage as he seeks to use his fury and pain to feel less afraid and worthless.

    Rey represents a new hope for the Skywalker family. She is literally a "Rey of Hope", hence the not so subtle references to ANH through TFA. She is the hope that can put this family and this galaxy back on track to harmony. She is an innocent Polyana who naively waits for a family who will never return. When she meets Finn, she joins him without question through the call of adventure. She is certainly capable but somehow has never developed a skeptical or cynical outlook on people despite living on a junkyard planet full of oppression, thievery, and isolation. In TFA, she unknowingly begins to put the Skywalker/Solo family back on track. Han has run from his responsibility again because he would rather run than deal with difficult situations. He and Leia didn't know what to do with their son who they couldn't relate to so they gave their son to Luke who they also didn't fully understand but hoped Luke and Ben could relate to each other better than either parent could with Ben. When Luke made his tragic error with Ben, Han ran and Leia went back to leading a military rebellion because that is all either person knows. They went back to what was comfortable, not what was necessary. When Rey and Finn return the Falcon to Han, they force him to begin to confront the issues that he has run from for so long. We see her strip away some of Han's fear, his cynicism and bring him back to the Han from the end of ESB and ROTJ when he finally has people he is willing to sacrifice himself for, ridding himself of his Solo title. His moments with Leia are a father and mother coming back together through the love of their wayward son and they reinforce his responsibility as a husband and as a father to overlook his own safety out of love for who his son was and can be again, not for the addict. As often happens with addiction, family members are hurt when trying to save addicts. In this case, Han sacrifices his life for his son attempting to bring him home, to forgive him and to ask forgiveness. Han allows Ben to kill him out of love. Addicts also try to corrupt others who they see as their ideal or what they hate themselves for not being. These people are often younger siblings or significant others. We see this in Ben's scenes with Rey where he tries to manipulate her and tempt her with the same drug that corrupted him. He is jealous of her because of her connection to his family and to the thinks he wants. He hates himself and hates that he isn't her so that makes him hate her. If he can't destroy her, he will make her like him, someone to share his agony. He fails to ruin her but plants a seed of doubt.

    In TLJ, that doubt grows as Rey experiences similar let-downs by the heroes she needs to become who she thinks she needs to be. Kylo lashes out at his mother but at the last second, he fails to deliver the killing blow. That moment, of having him make the choice to not fire but to have the other Ties take it from him, haunts him. I think the reason Leia is alive is that the love of the mother will be the thing that saves him (most likely in death). Luke's love for his sister, Leia, in ROTJ nearly caused his fall, but his love for his father and his belief in what is right prevented that fall. Kylo's love for his mother and forgiveness between them could be what saves him. In the scenes between Rey and Kylo in this film, he tries to tempt her through their mutual disillusionment with the people who they relied on for hope. This false empathy on his part makes her think they have a connection that will allow her to break him free from Kylo so that she can save Ben. She fails at great cost as the manipulative addict uses her worst fears against her, her fear that she is no one and that her parents were terrible people who abandoned her with no hope of her ever seeing them again. I don't believe him in that scene and I'm surprised by home many people do. This is a classic tactic. She realizes that she has been manipulated and travels to Crait to save the last hope in the galaxy, Leia. Luke, like Han, has run from his responsibility. He has failed his nephew, his ward, and returns to apologize to his sister before doing what he should have done all along. He confronts his nephew. The strain of this seems to kill Luke's physical form but Luke as an idea is far more powerful than any old hermit may be. An idea can root itself deeply within us and fester there for years, rooting away at any gap left by doubt. An idea can also travel faster than any single person can. His interaction with Rey made him take responsibility and cast aside his fear to be himself again, even if it cost him his life.

    Rey will be the catalyst to bring the Skywalker family back together and back to who they are meant to be in their family. She is the catalyst to force each character to return to who they are meant to be, not the person who they have become by doing the easy thing rather than the hard. She will be the factor that helps redeem Ben not through romantic love but through a family's love in forgiveness.
     
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    Not sure what someone thought was funny about this post. Good post
     
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    I would be cool with Reylo if Kylo and Rey rule the galaxy as Dark Siders together:

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    It's a good theory... but I think you may be wrong. Rose had the most relevant line to this in TLJ. It will have more impact in TROS. Rey and Ben have had a very intimate connection through the force... you might be underestimating what that could do. But you could be right.
     
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