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Daisy Ridley Says J. J. Abrams Wrote Story Drafts For Star Wars Episodes VIII & IX

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  1. SWNN Probe

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    A common criticism of the Star Wars Sequel Trilogy thus far is that there doesn't seem to be an overall plan put in place by Lucasfilm for a clear narrative arc. But in a new interview, Daisy Ridley reveals that the opposite is true, and that J. J. Abrams came up with a general plan for the story of The Last Jedi and Episode IX - although Johnson would ultimately deviate from said plan as he developed his script.





    In an interview with the French publication Le Magazine GEEK (which has been translated thanks to the efforts of Tumblr user daisyridleys), Daisy Ridley was asked about whether or not Rey's backstory had been decided before The Force Awakens wrapped or if it had been resolved with The Last Jedi. Ridley herself didn't seem to know the answer to that specific question, so she explained what she understood about the overall writing process:

    One thing that we know was in both Abrams and Johnson's respective drafts was the idea that Luke Skywalker went into hiding because he was depressed over something that went wrong earlier in his life before Rey would convince him to get back in the fight - as was the case with George Lucas' original pitch for Episode VII. So presumably, other ideas from the unseen Abrams draft of the script of Episode VIII are in the movie as well, in spite of Ridley's comment suggesting that Johnson threw everything out, especially considering that he consulted with Abrams about the story itself, and that Abrams later praised the script and stated that he wished he could have directed it.



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    But it's also not a stretch to imagine that the creative process for The Last Jedi ultimately took Johnson in a different direction than expected. The Force Awakens in and of itself underwent a handful of rewrites and the opening sequence was overhauled more than once, so while a general plan may be in place, there's more than enough room for creators to take some liberties and make a little of it up as things went along. With Abrams back on board with Episode IX, it's likely that the story elements he thought up for his version of events will be adapted into the story following revisions necessitated by the changes that The Last Jedi brought and the death of Carrie Fisher.



    It will certainly be interesting to see where the story heads after The Last Jedi, considering that the movie - along with the decision to not put Leia in Episode IX - wrapped up a number of plot points and left a number of others in question. There will presumably be a time skip between the latter two movies if they want to tell more stories in this era, which might also help them with the issue of figuring out how to resolve Leia's story offscreen. We'll just have to wait and see what happens.



    For the full interview with Daisy Ridley make sure to go to daisyridleys.





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    I don't know how well informed Daisy is, but I think we should take her information with a grain of salt. I don't think Rian would go on record multiple times talking about his creative freedom if he had killed something that was outlined for VIII. Perhaps J.J. offered ideas and Rian was free to use or disregard them. He chose the latter and that's fair. I think that's the most plausible scenario if what Daisy is talking about is true. I still think it might be an inaccurate statement.

    Personally, I don't think that having no restrictive outline for the whole trilogy is a bad thing in itself. Sure, it absolutely can be if you don't know what you're doing, but if the consecutive filmmakers follow the story logically, all should be fine. Sometimes people get too caught up in their own expectations and I think that's where a lot of the criticism regarding having no plan comes from.
     
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    One of my complaints with the ST was that there didn't seem to be plan for the Trilogy from the beginning and if this is true it looks like there could have been after all with JJ Abrams. It's just that Rian Johnson decided to make his own film with possibly no plan for Episode 9.
     
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    Agreed with @srg that this should probably be taken skeptically, but it is a comforting idea that Abrams had an outline all along, particularly with him back at the helm.
     
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    Everything that happened in Ep. VIII could have just about been summarized in an opening crawl. Then we could have had some time with Luke actually doing some Luke things that we all wanted to see.
     
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    See, I think that's kind of where the fanbase is split right now. Episode 7 could have been split only if we wanted to gloss over the new characters to get straight to Luke.

    The Sequel Trilogy is not the Luke Skywalker Variety Hour that so many fans wanted. And I totally get why they wanted that. But, for better or for worse, the story is being told is completely different than that.
     
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    I'd be curious to read JJ's Ep.8 outline and see where he was wanting it to go. It's always interesting to me to find out what could have been.
     
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    A little confused here:
    I know the above underlined is heavily assumed, but has this been officially announced in some capacity? Or am I just misinterpreting the statement as something that is still in question?
     
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    Well, Carrie passed away...So...
     
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    I want to say during the early stages of TFA, I read that JJ had written the whole trillogy. Of course there would be alterations but the basic story would be the same. GL wrote several episodes of Star Wars during the early stages. Yes there were many deviations, and decisions made on the spot, but the overall story remained the same .
     
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    I believe that Kathleen Kennedy and some of the other higher-ups have officially said that Leia has been written out. It was the biggest reason why Colin Trevorrow had to completely redo his script, which Lucasfilm apparently took issue with compared to his original pitch, as this led to his ousting (and not the failure of The Book of Henry, as some mistakenly think was the defining move that led to the decision).
     
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    The idea that either had no plan, or let RJ rip up the plan, is insane.

    TFA, for all its many flaws, at least left some interesting doors open. The possibilities post TFA were exciting.

    And this is coming from someone who is not a JJ fan.



    TLJ, on the other hand, has completely killed my interest. I honestly don’t care about any of these characters. I loved Rey and Finn after TFA.


    It is painfully obvious RJ just wanted to do his own thing. What a mess.

    I went from thinking they were using a basic outline from Lucas, to at least expecting JJ and Kasden mapped out some broad strokes, to now realizing that each director/writer team just gets to practice some fan fiction.

    A sequel trilogy to Star Wars should have been a slam dunk. Wtf happened.
     
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    Personally, I don't understand the complaint that they 'didn't have a plan'. First of all, planning out a series isn't necessarily the best way of approaching it: Lucas had no such plan for the OT - at least, not one that he followed. Second, it's obvious that what turned out to be misdirects were key to making TLJ surprise audiences. ESB did the same thing, and resulted in dissatisfaction among its initial audiences comparable to the bad reaction to TLJ. I understand that the twists didn't work for everyone, but to kvetch about the 'lack of a plan' is mis-targeted.

    None of this means you have to like the movie: I adored the film and saw it 8 times in the theater, while my brother and nephew hated it and refuse to watch it again. I only mention this to make the point that I don't wish to put down anyone for not liking the movie. I feel sorry for anyone who feels that SW has been ruined for them by TLJ. If I felt that way, it would feel like someone erased chocolate from the universe: I'd be pissed.
     
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    Well I hope what JJ couldn't add in TLJ is in Episode 9.
     
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    I’m really not too bothered by this. My understanding is that JJ did this without it being for certain that he would do another film after The Force Awakens. Maybe he just had some rough ideas? Who knows? As someone who loved The Last Jedi, the only issue I really had was when Rian Johnson did an interview and said that he and JJ never discussed things like Rey’s parentage, so Rian assumed they were coming to the same conclusion about it. If you’re setting her heritage up to be a big factor in these films, why would you not discuss that beforehand?

    However, going into Episode IX, I really think JJ Abrams was one of the best possible choices given our current scenario. The Last Jedi was obviously divisive among fans, and the entire idea for Episode IX has presumably changed in the wake of Carrie Fisher’s death. Here, we have someone who worked closely with her and knew her, so to me, it makes sense that someone like JJ is handling her story going forward rather than Colin Trevorrow.

    I really think that’s going to be the big issue with Episode IX. I have total confidence in JJ that he’ll create an amazing conclusion to the Sequel Trilogy. My only real concern at this point is how they plan on handling Carrie’s death.
     
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    The Star Wars fandom happened. I can guarantee you that no matter what movies they would have made, a sizable portion of this fandom would vomit on it simply because that's what this fandom has done for years. To think that anything would change just because George Lucas wasn't behind the camera this time is folly.

    Hell, I bet in twenty years, fans will be begging Rian Johnson to direct another one.
     
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    Of course it is all well planned.
    Episode IX Will be epic.
    Ep.VIII was designed anticlimax.
    I admire vision of J.J....
     
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    A prequel trilogy to Star Wars should have been a slam dunk. WTF happened?

    Jeez, the great and powerful George Lucas who created AGFFA wrote and directed the films and had complete creative control.

    Except...

    The films made a boat load of money and that was apparently OK in the eyes of the owners of the property and worth disappointing some uber fans.

    IT'S A MOVIE AND A BUSINESS
     
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