Darth Plagueis In The Sequel Trilogy.

Interesting. Does the Aftermath series of novels explain Palpatine's obsession with the "Dark side source" only from others points-of-view? i.e. Gallius Rax

If all we know about this "source" is from others points-of-view, then we don't know if Palpatine was telling his officers the entire truth.

I'm wondering if Palpatine knew, or at least had a suspicion, that the "source" was his old master, but he just didn't tell anybody and kept his true thoughts secret. Why would he tell his officers that his powerful master might've cheated death and existed somewhere out there in Unknown? That's not something he would disclose with Vader, Tashu, Rax or anybody for that matter. He would tell them only what they need to know.

 

From what I read, Palpatine claims it was only him who was able to feel the presense of that source of the Dark Side outhere somwehere in Unknown regions.
It may be just a lack of coherence between the book and films, but we know Vader felt his son Luke while Palps could not, because of personal ties between Vader and Luke. Of course this is probabaly my whishfull thinking, that Palps in fact searched for the "shadow" of his late master, D.P. the Wise. In the decanonised novel Darth Plagueis, it is mentioned that after Palps killed Plagueis, he felt SOMETHING, a discrete presence, and though this was not elaborated in the novel it leaves the feeling Palpatine was not 100 % sure he destroyed Plagueis forever.
Palpatine also inherited Plagueis droid, and, interestingly, again probabaly just my whishfull thoughts, the new story starts by droids excavate "something" on Jakku, again by coincidence cronologically just at the time Palpatine killed Plagueis.

Yes, I can not get it over with Plags, this will be such a explosion never seen in history of movies if Disney have actualy give it a secret code.... go.go go go

 

ALL ABOARD!!!

 

He is from Unknown expanses of Galaxy, wounded and caucious. He is not supreme being but hurt one old slim tall alien, master of the Dark Side.

The one Palpatine supected could be lourking behind and was obsessesd to find it.

 

If he was Plagueis, it'd also play well into Sidious' plans for the Empire in case of his own death.

Spoiler

That is, blow it all up. Don't want the old Master taking the prize back when by all rights he should be out of the game.

 

think about it....the last jedi needs to be up against...the last sith. and who better to be hanging around than the one who can escape death!

 

Your Snoke theory sucks... heheh Darth Plagueis has no nose. Did he all of a sudden grow a nose from using the dark side? Will the story group change his species to fit the story? Kasden, Abrams, and RJ don't even know who Darth Plagueis is. I haven't had time to read the entire Dark Plagueis book. From what I've read, its a good book, but it has surely warped allot of minds... heheh.

 

It's a 610 page thread, so I can understand not wanting to go through it all. But maybe... check that your arguments actually fit the discussion before you post them? It's accepted in this thread that the Darth Plagueis book is non-canon. And, not everyone here thinks that Snoke and Plagueis are the same guy. (In fact, that particular theory has been officially denied.) This thread is about Darth Plagueis in the Sequel Trilogy, in whatever form that may be.

 

I'm back on the Plagueis train guys. Spoiler suggests that something he [Luke] came across relating to the Jedi puts into question everything he thought he knew about the ways of the Force.

He learned about his family origins. He learns about it after Ren is turned by Snoke. And this makes him realise that his family are cursed. That the Skywalker's must die. Rey isn't his daughter...she's his executioner.

#PlagueisConfirmedForThe500thTime

 

I think it's very unlikely that plagueis appear, it would mix the prequels with the sequel trilogy and I think Disney would not do that, if it popped up somewhere I think it would be on the rebels as a ghost

 

How exactly does Plagueis relate to the Jedi?

 

We'll find out in 9 months.

 

He does not. People simply want Plagueis very, very much to be the bad guy and to be proven right despite all of the evidence being against them.

 

/we want a good story and Plagueis provides best chance of that..

But yeah you're probably right, we're all dicks and just manufactured the countless similarities between Snoke and Plagueis

 

The evidence as a whole isn't one-sided at all. It's just that Pablo Hidalgo shot down the theory unambiguously. If not for that, Snoke being Plagueis would be a strong and valid theory.

Although I personally just think that this is some grey-Force junk. First comes the day, blah blah blah. The history of the Jedi religion is also probably less shiny than Luke imagined.

 

Why? You don't even know what the story is.

 

Either Snoke is Plagueis and he connects to the entire story and Vader's legacy or he is a completely new character - which might be an interesting story but it can't ever connect the way Plagueis would to the Skywalker legacy.

 

Woah! This thread is over 600 pages now and going strong.

 

I have a slightly different point of view. Snoke is frail with fatal looking injuries, and to me it seems clear that the Force is keeping him from dying. This is a power and a theme running through both the original and prequel trilogies. Either Snoke was kept from dying by Plagueis, or he taught Plagueis. Any other answer, that they came up with such a power separate from each other, devalues Yoda and Sidious and is sloppy writing. Any additional similarities between Snoke and Plagueis would only be additional poor writing.

Really, a guy who had the exact same powers as Plagueis, but he's not Plagueis? He's connecting with Sidious from the Unknown Regions, but it isn't a Force bond? Saw the Empire rise and fall, but didn't or was unable to make his move until recent history? ...Messing with babies in the womb, but has no connection to this other guy who manipulated midi-chlorians to create life? Of course there's a connection. I'm not even being thorough with all of the things that link them together.