David Benioff and D.B. Weiss Will Not Go to a Galaxy Far, Far Away

Actually, that's a good point. When I think of it that way, I'm more neutral about B&W leaving Star Wars. I'm still mildly curious about what their SW project might have looked like, but there's plenty of other talent out there. I am a bit more sad about RJ leaving SW, if that is indeed to be the case, since I'm a Last Jedi fan, but I still have faith that Disney will be able to find someone else who can get the job done.

 

Off topic here, sorry.

I always reply to SWNN posts using Disqus but it seems to have disappeared. Is this a temp thing or permanent?

 

Then why continue to post? I understand the PT is where your heart lies so why waste the time and energy on pointing out how much you hate everything else.

 

I am neutral as well. What I am more concerned about is creative people not wanting to work on Star Wars projects. I feel some of the more creative directors will not want to take the risk of Star Wars and it isnt because of management. It is because of toxic fans, I know I may sound like a broken record, but who the F wants to deal with people that go nuts about things like the physics of bombs falling, or horse like creatures running along on top of a space ship, in a space fantasy (just an example).

 

^Agreed there. I know he wasn't everyone's cup of tea, but I do feel that Rian was one of the more creative people to work on Star Wars, and I think we need people like him.

 

Disney executive Alan Horn appointed Marvel Studios President Kevin Feige it seems to decide the future of Star Wars. The who, the what, and the when.

 

Anytime someone posts "I don't care" it generally means they care. I can't care about the next season of Gilmore Girls. I don't know why I picked that at random, but anwyay... I'm not posting on Gilmore Girls' websites about how little I care about it.

Huh? Something appears to be missing here. It does seem to me that Feige is probably taking over whatever D&D were working on... they probably announced "a film" so people would connect the dots.

 

What is going on at Lucasfilm? They have a Star War film slated for December 2022. I hope they have a back up plan. I think that Kevin Feige's Star Wars production will take over for the slot of what was to be the Benioff & Weiss film. It doesn't sound like Rian Johnson's film is ready to be in development and production as of yet. Maybe Star Wars should take a decade hiatus for theatrical releases and focus on the Disney Plus television series. Disney can make just as much money off of the merchandising off of the Disney Plus Shows. I wouldn't mind if they keep the theatrical films as a generational event every ten years per trilogy. But I will also be satisfied with the movies getting released every other year. Another thing to consider is that Lucasfilm may go forward with the Indiana Jones film to take the slot for the December 2022 date. If Harrison Ford is to reprise his role as Indy, they better do it sooner than later. He is in his late 70's, so let's not take for granted that he will be around for the next 20 years, although he looks and acts great for his age.

 

I totally agree, I hate you why don't you love me happens all the time here. Because if I don't like something some else does I don't go out of my way to crap all over it. It seems childish. It is okay love those girls of Gilmore (Is it the town?).

I think this kind of fandom is the reason we are not going to get a lot of things that were in the works. They ran crying into the woods after GoT didn't end they wanted it too, so they think they is going to happen here too. 7 great seasons 1 one bad, if this was my football team I would be in heaven. I don't just see they need they have to post on topics that they hate just to pick a fight and then whine about what made up victimization make them feel better.

 

Disney bought LucasFilm on October 30 2012. A little over 3 years later TFA premiered. Just because B&W have moved on does not mean all the pre-production working being done on multiple Star Wars projects get thrown away. The very same project that B&W were working on may still move forward with different people running the show. Remember they werent the likely directors. Same with RJ series LucasFilm may have lots of stuff already done in concept phase and could easily move forward for a 2022 release.

Stop with this take 10 years off stuff. I know people who love to see Star Wars movies with children and grandchildren. People who may not be around in 10 years. Star Wars films are not so incredibly complex that creative ideas come along every 10 years. Indiana Jones 5 is already in pre-production for a July 2021 release.

 

That article is a month old and not sure if it's accurate because just a few weeks later, they announce he was in charge of all of marvel projects. There's no way he can balance SW along with all of the upcoming Marvel shows and movies.

https://deadline.com/2019/10/kevin-...arvel-title-oversees-all-creative-1202760382/

 

The best course of action would be to make a movie with completely new characters and time period (like the Mandalorian) and find somebody creative (and competent) enough to pull that off. This would give the franchise room to expand in the future and the "fans" would have far fewer (valid) reasons to go on backlashes.

 

Just curious as to where the Disqus feature has gone. Doesn’t appear in the main site at the mo.

 

it appears to be throwing a shoe ~ we'll report it. : o p

 

I'll take a stab at this. If we go back to the troubled production that was Rogue One (a film I think of as peak Star Wars under Disney) there does seem to be a problem getting films to the finish line. The Force Awakens supposedly had some clashes between KK and JJ. We all know about Solo, and while the Last Jedi seemingly had no problems between the writer/director and LFL upper management (KK), there was at the very least some portion of the fan base wildly upset by it.

Now this sort of thing happens all the time. Films go into turn around and never get made. No biggie. But, when dealing with Star Wars, you aren't dealing with a property that is unknown and so no one cares. Sometime between June 2018 and September 2018 there was apparently a decision made by Bob Iger to become more involved with what was going on at LFL. In the aftermath of Solo it was Bob Iger front and center, and he is the one who said there would be a "slow down" in Star Wars films. If I had to bet, there was also at that time a decision to reorder things. Put more content on the streaming service and save BIG stories for the cinema. The event films, so to speak.

In April of this year I seem to remember KK mentioning she was going to be meeting with Rian Johnson and B&W about the future of Star Wars. Suddenly in the last what, 6-8 weeks, Rian Johnson (depending on his mood I guess) has changed his tune and then changed it again. Essentially he has said he is on hold waiting to find out what LFL/Disney is doing. Then you get KF coming in... Perhaps B&W simply didn't want to do Star Wars. One reason is the fact that Netflix made them a HUGE offer. Maybe they accepted that knowing that Disney/LFL was moving them out?

Either way, it appears there is some sort of restructuring going on behind the scenes. Will it have an affect on the 2022 film? Who knows? Personally, I doubt it. I have a feeling KF was brought in to get that thing going (didn't' they announce a writer recently for it?). Then depending on how Skywalker does they will move forward. If the film does well AND Rian Johnson has a proposal (perhaps even a story treatment) that Iger and Alan Horn like, then I think they will move forward with that. If the film under-performs, then Iger might lay the blame at Johnson's doorstep (he won't blame himself but I think he does share in the blame) and move away from his idea.

Sorry for the length. This was just me thinking out loud.

 

I agree, but dont consider Mandalorian a new time period. A new time period really would be to go 100s of years into the future or the past.

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Where is there an article about this fight between KK and JJ? We dont need hearsay.

I think the RJ stuff wasnt him backing out then not backing out. It was people reading to much into his choice of words when he said Disney/LFL is still planning on what they want to do and when. He chose some words that some wanted to jump on and say look, look, look he is getting canned. Yea.

I think a lot of announcements were planned for post TROS release. Think this news about B&W was planned for post TROS or at least post Mandalorian release. It leaked and they had to address it. LucasFilm biggest problem is they keep things to close to the vest and then they have leaks. Would be better to get roadmap out and then announce adjustments as they occur.

 

There were some rumors of friction early on, but nothing major. It couldn't have been too bad. She brought him back for this film after Rian Johnson turned them down.

One challenge Lucasfilm has with bringing in people is the IP is very high profile. In some ways Star Wars news is bigger news in the US than Marvel. It's natural to have several projects in development, but it's difficult to keep the creatives secret. There have been several people linked to Lucasfilm that we've never heard anything official about from Lucasfilm. Supposedly Sam Esmail was working on something at some point.

It might make sense for Lucasfilm just to hold off on announcing they're working with someone until they're closer to production.

 

Yes. I guess I'm just more cautious than KK, but I wouldn't have announced Johnson or B&W trilogies until they were closer to production. At least until they had submitted story treatments. Too much of a chance that it won't happen when you announce it that far in advance.

 

Rumors? Really? Lets stick to something real.

I think it would be better to announce what they are doing soon and announce directorial choices later closer to production. I does seem odd to me we hear about the directors before the projects. How about announcing that the next planned trilogy will be about the formation of the Jedi or whatever and then figure out who is best for the project.