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DC Extended Universe

Discussion in 'Film' started by Echo-07, Jul 27, 2014.

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Which upcoming DCEU movies are you most excited for?

  1. Superman

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    15.4%

  2. The Batman

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    23.1%

  3. Wonder Woman 2

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    11.5%

  4. The Flash

    4 vote(s)
    15.4%

  5. Aquaman

    3 vote(s)
    11.5%

  6. Cyborg

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    0.0%

  7. Green Lantern Corps

    2 vote(s)
    7.7%

  8. Batman Spin-Offs (Nightwing/Batgirl/Joker & Harley)

    1 vote(s)
    3.8%

  9. Villain-Based Movies (Suicide Squad 2/Gotham City Sirens/Black Adam/Deathstroke)

    1 vote(s)
    3.8%

  10. Other (Justice League 2/Justice League Dark/Shazam)

    2 vote(s)
    7.7%
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    And there is now - Joker & Harley. From the sound of things, it's replacing Gotham City Sirens, if not entirely (since David Ayer seems to be more interested in Netflix these days), then at least in terms of importance. And it is set in the DCEU, with Jared Leto and Margot Robbie returning. (Probably gonna get that Valentine's Day 2020 release date.)

    So from the sound of things they're doing a DC Extended Universe and a DC Multiverse of Elseworlds projects. The Matt Reeves Batman is likely going to be set in another time period as well and it's going to be anything but a shared universe. (Though there's still the chance that it's a prequel, which is still theoretically on the table.)

    I think WB needs to issue a statement clarifying WTF is going on here. I really do like the idea of Elseworlds movies, but they have to clearly label which ones are one-offs/alternate universes and which ones aren't, otherwise you're going to end up with a lot of confused general audiences.
     
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    I'm a comic book reader who's used to juggling different continuities and universes and I'm confused as Heck right now. Some clarification would definitely be nice.
     
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    Based on what's been said, J&H is definitely replacing GCS even though the studio is publicly denying it right now. (Ayer's been professional about how SS was more or less taken from him, but based on his venting about working under the restrictions of a PG-13 rating at SDCC - and SS being the only PG-13 movie he's ever done - WB are not particularly pleased with him.) Honestly, I feel as though this is a better progression of what they want to do with these characters as opposed to introducing two more into the mix - let the world-building kinda take a moment to simmer. (Although I totally want to see Poison Ivy in this movie, since it's a glorified HQ movie with Mistah J. in it.)

    WB has some serious PR issues that they need to work out with their DC movies. Hopefully things will be a little easier for them after Justice League ends up being the last movie of the old guard and they have time to think, but a clearer sense of where they're taking things is needed in order to put a stopper on the "DC is doomed forever" narrative that's been going on since 2013 (in spite of the buckets of money that these movies are pulling in). Their marketing campaigns are solid and they're getting some great talent, but they need to have a presence that can reassure people what rumors are fake and what they're going to get out of these projects.
     
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    Alright, so The Batman IS a DCEU movie after all. But, like Wonder Woman, it's more of a standalone.







    That's a relief!
     
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    oh thank God. That makes sense that it's stand alone like Wonder Woman so it doesn't have to be tied into everything.
     
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    It's almost like WB/DC are just really really stupid and have no idea how to market.
     
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    That's exactly what it is. They really need to just make a statement to explain it all, but it would probably be more confusing after.
     
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    Geoff Johns on twitter complaining about people getting stuff wrong and mixed up.

    It's like dude, STFU and get your house in order and this won't be an issue.
    No one thinks The Batman is a stand alone if you don't halfcocked announce a Joker stand alone that same week.

    Get your directors under control so Reeves doesn't say stupid blast like that. It's never an issue with Star Wars or Marvel.
     
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    Yeah, Disney has their ducks in a row.

    This is Warner Bros at all times.
    [​IMG]
     
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    What I'd appreciate WB do is stop rolling out movies with stories based on the audience having some preexisting relationship to its DC characters. Get us invested first, and then start playing in the sandbox. They haven’t earned what they’ve been trying to do yet. Doing team ups and toying with convention has little affect if you haven’t established what that convention is.

    Why do we care if our heroes are fighting each other if we barely know who they are? Why do we then care if their villains forcibly team up to become reluctant heroes? Why do we care if they join forces to battle a greater threat? Why do we care if we get alternate timeline versions of them?

    They didn’t just put their cart before the horse. They strapped another cart on back and now that poor horse is staggering all over the road. Meh, what do I know?
     
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    It's easy to say "Marvel doesn't do this", but Marvel DID had its problems when the MCU started. The controversies of Mickey Rourke's role being cut in I2, Norton leaving the role of Hulk after the SECOND movie(imagine if something like this happens in the DCEU), Terrence Howard leaving the role of War Machine after the FIRST movie, the Edgar Wright thing, the Whedon thing, the Thor 2 problems.......

    After Suicide Squad, Warner took their time and reconsidered things. They announced movies at the Comic Con but WITHOUT A RELEASE DATE. They are waiting to see how JL does before announce a slate. They could rush more movies, but next year they will only release Aquaman.

    All of this are rumors or movies they are actually considering doing, but if the Joker-origin movie were so advanced in development, they would announced it at the Comic Con, at least the logo.

    Same with Sirens or Harley v the Joker.

    They're taking their time and see how JL does before saying something official. So patience.

    Same thing happens with Lucasfilm, they have 2 movies right now being done and maybe they're considering an Obi Wan movie, a Jabba movie or even a Yoda movie, who knows? But right now, none of these movies are official.
     
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    No one is making this a Marvel/DC thing.

    This is a WB problem. No one was worried about whether or not the stand alone Thor movie was part of the MCU.
    WB is all over the map right now.

    They are just throwing darts hoping it works.
     
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    I'm not making this a Marvel/DC thing either (I love both).

    All I'm saying is that I think is normal for Warner Bros to have problems or different ideas about where to go because they're "starting". Even Marvel had them too.

    James Gunn replied to Matt Reeves on twitter saying



    Because Gunn said Vol 2 will be a standalone movie (which was) while promoting.

    As I said, I will wait for an official press release before jumping into conclussions, but I can agree that things are not looking good with Warner's plan.
     
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    The difference is, Marvel didn't just announce a stand alone movie for Galactus, who the GOTG have been known to fight, right before GOTG VOL 2.

    That's the issue. WB is all over the map with their stuff.
    The movies are subpar.
    The marketing is all over the place.
    They don't seem organized or even sure of what they are doing.

    It doesn't inspire confidence.
     
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    J&H is replacing GCS, unofficially. They won't come clean on that for a while, but this is basically what's happening. GCS could still happen a while from now, but there's a reason they didn't list it as being part of their big presentation.

    The thing that people are forgetting is that WB didn't announce either of the two movies that popped up this week, so I wouldn't quite blame them for the shenanigans that just went on. And also worth mentioning is that there's still the AT&T merger, which will happen in a few months, and these projects that leaked out most likely leaked out for the purpose of driving up prices a bit. But all the same, this does represent an issue that could have easily been avoided if they had better public relations.

    Geoff Johns and Jon Berg are a good team, from the looks of things, and they'll likely be sticking around after they've just delivered the most profitable movie in the entire setting. But there needs to be a clearer sense of direction with what they're doing - and I think that's where their superiors, Toby Emmerich and Kevin Tsujihara, are in need of self-evaluation. I certainly do think that DC's in a better position than they were in a year ago for sure, and WB's management generally works with their other properties - it's just that, for multiple reasons, they're having a lot of trouble putting their best foot forward on what is easily going to be their biggest moneymaker.
     
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