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SPECULATION Death Star in Rouge One - Discussion

Discussion in 'Rogue One' started by Quincy, Jan 24, 2016.

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Will the Death Star fire in Rouge One?

  1. Yes, at an inhabited planet

  2. Yes, at an uninhabited planet or asteroid

  3. No

  4. They try but it won't work

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  1. NDCAtokR

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    Or you could look at it as paying homage to Alien. Star Wars is nothing but a series of rip-offs, in your words.

    *But* Star Wars is so much more than that. It is really a story that continually pays homage to many of the great stories of humanity. Hell, even StarWars.com runs articles periodically showcasing some piece of cinema or other media that Star Wars got some ideas from.

    Try not to let that view restrict what is really going on with the storytelling, but that's just my two cents.
     
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  2. Quincy

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    something needs to be blown up by the death star, because if the death star is just talked about as a threat in the movie then new fans would be turned off. We have to see just how powerful it is.
     
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    I think it will not fire on a planet. Why else would they need to test the weapon on Alderaan? But I do think they will be firing the weapon, either at no target, just into space or at an astroid or moon.
     
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    How about the movie ending with a slight overlap with Ep. 4 from the perspective of being inside Alderaan being blown up? Like a closed meeting trying to establish whether Leia succeeded in summoning Obi-Wan, and suddenly .... bye Alderaan.
    Not sure if this is possible as I haven't checked the actual timeline of the film. But I'd like the idea.
     
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    Yeah, I am going to have to go with the Death Star won't even actually be in the film at all, let alone be shown firing.

    It is clear that it only becomes operational in ANH - there is no need to try bandy dialogue about trying to find holes in it. Alderaan is the first test of its full power.

    I think Rogue One is is going to be a gritty war movie, and is going to take place mostly on planets.

    I envision the opening 15-20 minutes to be a pitched battle scene, comparable to the beginning of Saving Private Ryan. You're going to follow this unit of elite commando style special forces and/or bounty hunters whose objective is to extract the plans during the battle. That extraction will be the focus of the next 15-20 minutes.

    The mission will be a success, but the battle itself will be a brutal and gruesome affair for both sides, with the Rebels edging the contest and able to claim their first victory over the Empire, as referenced in the ANH Crawl. The aftermath of the battle will be about 5 min in order to get exposition about what just happened and where we actually are in the galaxy.

    Then we'll be interupted from that, because almost from the moment the plans are retrieved, the elite unit will be hounded by the great Darth Vader and his henchmen, constantly on the run, barely escaping at every turn, members of the unit being eliminated one by one as Vader and his forces close in. There will be three or four of these scenarios as we move the story along, each about 15-20 minutes in length, until the very end where Felicity Jones and one other character who are the sole survivors, get the data to Leia's ship, sacrificing their lives in the process.

    Total run time around 100-110 minutes, no Death Star in the movie, Vader's presence will be felt big time, but Vader himself probably won't be in it too much, maybe like 10 minutes total of camera time, limited dialogue.

    There will probably be lots of close quarter battle scenes in tight places, like Imperial bunker facilities, building to building urban combat, that sort of stuff. Most likely some space getaway or chase scenes, maybe even some kind of Imperial capital ship interior scenes where the heros somehow end up on a Star Destroyer or something (forced to stoy away) and have to try to escape from there.

    Of course make sure you depict how much sacrifice was required to get the plans, get as many references to ANH in there as possible, and make the ending scene be the first scene in ANH - the Star Destroyer bearing down on the Rebel cruiser...that would be awesome...

    That's how I would do it anyway. Add in the rumours about the defecting scientist characters who helped create the Death Star's big gun and regret it for more exposition and there you have it.

    Also like the theory about Felicity Jone's character being Rey's mom with Luke the father. What if her name is Mara Jade?!? (yoda)
     
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    Yeah but the Death star was already in the mini-teaser at the Celebration. I think that an uninhabited planet will get destroyed and Galen will see how much destruction in could cause. As for Tarkin saying that he will test the DS on Alderaan, this could be just another test for it.
     
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    That teaser was more of a "prof-of-concept" and one of the hardest BFX to pull off for a veteran such as Kohn Knoll .
     
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    Indeed, and it was just the skeleton frame.

    Given the time that it takes to build a Death Star, that would put it really actually outside of where the timeframe for Rogue One should be. The movie should directly precede and butt up against the events of ANH, otherwise Leia's flight from Vader doesn't make any sense.

    There is a really cool opportunity that will be missed if they try to put an artificial timeline gap between them. The last lines of the film could be Vader repeating a classic of his, "I have you now..."
     
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    Yeah apparently that teaser wa s more accurate than ROTJ .
     
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    The Death Star must be seen as a power in the movie, or else the story would seem like it is for nothing.
     
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    For God's sake it's Rogue One. Not ROUGE
     
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    Who said that ?
     
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    Where in that post did I say anything about Star Wars being a series of rip-offs? Enlighten me, please do. Read the post properly before you get all high and mighty and jump to conclusions about what somebody believes or put words into the mouths of others. (duel)

    Out of the recent comic series' I only have a problem with that one issue which I thought was an uncharacteristic low point of the Vader series. It felt to me like it was just a bad rehash of the plot of Aliens to the point where I was half-expecting one of the droids to pipe up and say "Game Over man. Game Over."
     
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    Whoa, brother! Hold up now!

    Relax, first. You are the one that said that they "ripped off Aliens." The fact that you are instantly defensive speaks volumes (a lightsaber fighting emoji, really?). My intention was not to get you all riled up, however. I was making a point about the language you chose to use. I viewed the "rip off" (again, YOUR words) as a positive, your language made it into a negative. Based on all the hyper negative posts I see on this site, I don't think I was too far off base.

    Based on that language, it is a VERY SAFE ASSUMPTION you feel that way about Star Wars and other pieces of media, seeing as most of the ideas and themes of Star Wars were ripped right out of some other story somewhere.

    If I am wrong in my observation, I apologize, but your word choice says that I was correct.
     
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    Just let me get this straight....I mention a grievance I have with ONE storyline in ONE comic book and you take that as me having a problem with the WHOLE of the Star Wars universe?? And then you again presume to tell me that that is the way how I feel about all the other bits of media.

    Have I mentioned any other examples anywhere? Have I dismissed Star Wars, a series with which I have grew up with extreme fondness, in any other way that you can provide evidence for other than your assumptions and generalizations? No, I haven't. Anything you have said is mere conjecture and I find it quite churlish of you to suggest so.

    Clearly the error is on your part having read into something which wasn't there and then having to justify yourself when the error has been pointed out - albeit my reply may have been slightly inflamed.

    Correct me if I'm wrong but isn't that just over-generalizing on your part?
     
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    You're missing my point and it really is not important enough for hijacking a thread.

    Take care.
     
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    That's funny because my Dad, a long time Star trek fan, always says that Star Wars rips everything off.
     
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    That's funny because I thought SW was original until I saw ST:ID last not on FX and a lot of he designs looks similar to TFA which was released a few years later ...
     
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    It makes sense that the D.s. could be tested on an asteroid because Geonosis has an asteroid ring, and I think the D.S. being at Geonosis is canonized.
     
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    Is it really...I think it would be really insignificant to shoot at an asteroid or rather blow up agronomist itself to "eradicate" the clone wars and stuff from memory even further ... ...
     
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