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Deep Depth Analysis Of The Teaser

Discussion in 'Star Wars: The Rise of Skywalker' started by NinjaRen, Apr 12, 2019.

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    1. I feel like you did voice your concern here (and I think it's a legitimate one) and you didn't get downvoted.
    2. We all have been fooled. I think what we have learned is that the teasers for this new generation of SW deliberately mislead
    3. I'm skeptical on bringing back Palaptine as well, he's been dead and an afterthought. I suspect he will be a hologram or a disembodied spirit and play a limited role

    I think we all just have to hope the execution of this movie is done well, tinkering with legacy characters is dangerous and often back fires
     
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    I’m of the opinion it’s Kylo toying with her by playing chicken. She turns the tables and responds with gravitas! “Oh yeah, you think you can run me down? Watch this!”

    I’m sure she had the lightsaber ignited in case he fired upon her. She can also use it to disable his Tie. Remember his Tie Silencer was aboard Snokes ship, so it was probably destroyed.
     
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    It came from far enough away that if it was trying to kill her, it could have fired on her and fired on her from height. I honestly think she is really hitching a ride and they are headed towards a conflict.
     
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    Isn't this the whole point of this forum?

    These are definitely Kylo's gloves. I have those myself and they look exactly like the ones of this trailer.

    Kylo_Ren_Gloves_03.jpg

    This is my thought too. Especially because it's early on in the movie.

    Why not shoot her from far then? Okay... It's Kylo and Kylo can be irrational.
     
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    The return of Palpatine gives Lucasfilm an easy way to explain all of the questions average fans had about how the First Order came about and why they look like the Empire 2.0. If you show the puppet master behind it all was Palpatine, people will be like. “Oh now I get why Snoke and the First Order we’re just like the Empire, it was Palpatine all along!”

    There’s also an obsession about connecting this trilogy to the others and ending the story of the Skywalkers. If you give us one common villain then you don’t need much backstory to explain how this all happened again.
     
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    The gloves they show in this sequence match up with Kylo's in TLJ. But those couple of frames with gloves could be from an entirely different part of the movie, edited into the sequence for purposes of the trailer to make the viewer assume it is Kylo piloting. We don't even know if that is Kylo's ship since it is not the one he was flying in TLJ. That ship could have been destroyed on the Supremacy but who knows.

    I am leaning heavily that it is not Kylo piloting this ship. The Resistance and First Order are supposedly going after the same thing in this movie so it is likely there will be many mini-skirmishes along the way. The most logical explanation for Rey doing what she is doing is she is going to cutoff the right wing of this Tie. Why isn't it firing upon her? Maybe it already tried and she deflected the bolts, hence why she is out of breath, on the Tie's first pass. Perhaps Rey, similar to Qui-Gon Jin meditating during his fight with Maul while the force fields were activated, is also meditating to some extent after deflecting the bolts and the Tie making its turn for another run.

    It doesn't seem like a training sequence because why would someone train to do this? It also does not seem like a dream sequence because I would imagine if Rey has dreams of facing Kylo Ren it would not be her versus Kylo flying a Tie, rather it would be one on one. Also, Rey catching a ride doesn't seem right because her face when she turns with the saber is almost, but not quite, her war face. Granted, that turn with the light saber could also be editing to misdirect. However, the ignited light saber does not seem to suggest a friendly pickup.
     
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    I do not believe that this is an accurate statement based on what people directly involved with these films have said and are saying.
     
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    Agreed i don't think it's kylo piloting the ship. It's probably a Knight of Ren or something.
     
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    Doesn’t look a training to me too. At all.
    But, back to gloves, I know and I agree that they’re similar to those of Kylo in TLJ or TFA.
    Or at least pretty much alike.
    That is why I asked if there’s a picture of his gloves in this movie.

    Because those of Poe in this movie are almost identical to those of who whoever is piloting the tie.



    And just because a training doesn’t make that much of sense...

    But, sure.... sometimes a tree is just a tree and that’s Kylo. :)
     
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    I had the same though. Why not Snoke? Well, I am trying to get used with the idea of Palpatine's return, after all, it was already confirmed. I just hope his return will be as a flashback scene or as a hologram.
     
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    It is Kylo. We even see his upper body, his jacket and cape. ;D

    That's pretty cool:
    d996cac0815e51afadcbd39a7101cc17.jpg
    #Poetry
     
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    Well, I read someone else saying that, but in all honesty I do not see them. To me it’s just the back ground .
    But it’s me probably...

    And... go and watch again all ep. 1 trailer.
    There’s a lot of poetry :)
    And I don’t care what people say, I love that stuff :)

    P.s. Revenge-Return-Rise. Sure.

    But, The phantom Menace vs A new Hope, Etc...

    However, just because this is how the saga ends, and just because according to the ring composition theory
    9 has to rhyme with 6 and 1...
    I cannot help but think, that The Rise of Skywalker rhymes with The Phantom Manace.
    That if is about Anakin, the chosen one, the hero that was promised (inverse of manace) that rises again (inverse of a phantom)
     
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    it looks a little shorter. As if the rough edge from it being pulled apart have been trimmed.
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    I think because of the proximity of the Death Star II to Endor, it's much more likely that the remnants of it would be pulled into the gravity well of the moon. Also, although it really hasn't been done, for there to be a forest there also has to be LOTS of water to grow the trees, I would think giant lakes would be necessary. So I don't think a large body of water rules out Endor.
     
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    I totally agree. The glove sequence could be from a different part of the movie. I do believe it is Kylo. To me, it seems you can see a cape around the shoulder of the pilot. Don't think that would be Poe. Given we have been told the group goes on an adventure together in TROS, and these two images could be on the same planet given the backgrounds:

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    I'm wondering if Rey was with the group then was separated for some reason. She may have fallen off the skiff or intentional left to draw the TIE away.
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    I think it is shorter also, and it has that black band closer to the grip

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    Maybe they will mirror this scene ;D
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    hahaha!
     
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    It had crossed my mind.
     
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    Agreed, if Palpatine is behind it all, the whole "Snoke didn't have a backstory" becomes moot. I do think that the fact that the First Order rose from the ashes of the Empire is enough to explain why they have some of the same ship designs and gear (TIEs, Storm Troopers, Star Destroyers), probably don't need Palpatine for that. But having Palpatine back could further explain what happens to the Empire that it transforms into the First Order, and how the hell they managed to get all these resources to build SKB and Snoke's Galactic B2 Bomber. Had to be working on those for decades.

    Still I was kind of liking that the First Order was from the Empire, but NOT the Empire. Tarkin could NOT have been more different than Hux. Both evil but it manifested differently in their demeanor. Tarkin was like a snake and Hux was like a rabid dog. Both were dangerous, both could kill you, but the means by which they would go about it were so different.
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    If past is prologue it would probably be wise to assume that certain sequences will aid you to speculate in a direction that the movie isn't actually going.
     
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    That might be a valid viewpoint if we hadn't had 8 cast members simultaneously refuting the notion that the Teaser trailer was cut in such a way as to be deliberately misleading.

    We may not be able to guess the exact context of the scenes the Teaser shows us (if some of said scenes don't get cut through the editing process), but I don't see the order of said scenes having been manipulated in such a way as to deliberately lead people to false conclusions about the film.
     
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    The main one I can think of where this misdirection might apply is that shot of some ones hand on a control yoke now it could be Kylo but not Piloting that Tie Fighter it could be that Tie Fighters controls but not Kylos hands or it might even be a total different ships controls with a brand new character or maybe it is Kylo Piloting that Tie at that time just as the teaser shows but I certainly wouldn’t say when the film comes that scene going to play out exactly as it is in the trailer.
     
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    i'm going to go with Ben is piloting the TIE but he's actually not wearing gloves while doing it (hands are a language in Star Wars!)
    so it's a misdirect, but what we're seeing is still true.

    just like with TLJ when Rey asks for a teacher and he holds his hand out to her. ; D
     
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