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Deleted scenes in ROTJ

Discussion in 'Original Trilogy' started by ArtemisBlue, Oct 18, 2014.

  1. ArtemisBlue

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    I just splurged this summer (finally!) on the Blu-Ray complete 6 movie DVD set.

    So, finally saw the deleted Sandstorm scene - but I've seen pics on the net of some deleted scenes after the "Rebel Briefing" scene of Luke, Leia etc saying goodbye/good luck to Lando, I'm assuming it was meant for just before Han offers Lando the Falcon? Yet where is that scene?

    Okay, so for what I paid even that wasn't on the special features DVD's? George is really, really holding out on so much. He must have so many deleted scenes from all 3 films. How far can he stretch this out? How many more "special editions" must I buy to see "everything." I know it sounds petty, but money's tight and I was expecting a few surprises at least. This blue-ray set contained all the documentaries I devoured as a fan girl back in the 80's already.

    Any thoughts fellow SW peeps?
     
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    I saw the "Luke makes his new green lightsaber." clip from ROTJ but I think the original film version was better. It builds suspense & heightens interest the way it plays out. Plus, when the audiance has more information or is "smarter" than the bad guys then it's more entertaining. ;)
    I haven't watched the ROTJ "sandstorm" scene. That part to me makes 0 sense.
    Why would they want to take off in such terrible conditions? What point was Lucas or the screenwriter(s) trying to make?
    Also why, would Luke, who grew up on Tatooine stage the space-ships in the open or risk their damage or destruction with a massive sand storm?
    Was launching during the high winds & sand blasts meant to be a cover for their exfil?
    Maybe, but WHO would go looking for them?
    Also, wouldn't some pesky Jawas or annoying Tusken Raiders(sand people) pop up? If they can drive huge sand-crawlers they may also use metal detectors or heat seeking infrared scans.

    TFM
    PS: My friend & I also saw the web hoo-hah over the "Ice Cream Man". The "extra" who runs away in Bespin Cloud City evac scenes of TESB. This fan based character: Willrow Hood even became a action figure! Lol....
     
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    I saw ROTJ in the opening weeks in the theater. Just after the sail barge blows up there was a two or three second shot of Han walking towards the camera then the reel change countdown started, then it went back to space. Immediatley I asked my mother what that was and she explained how they had to change reels. For years that shot bugged me because of how it stood out. I saw ROTJ again in the theater in 1985 but of course it was not there.

    I found out about the sandstorm scenes in the mid 90s but it wasn't until the early 2000s that I put the two together. I was excited to hear about the deleted scenes on the Bluray and it was the first thing I watched when I bought it on the release day. However the image I can recall very clearly did not match the scene. It was a front shot of Han by himself walking in the desert and it was clear and bright. It made no sense at the time and was very jarring due to the sudden cutting and reel change countdown.

    I have been posting for years on numerous sites trying to find some explanation for what I saw. I usually get the response that I imagined it but I remember it from the moment it happened and I remember thinking about it after I got out of the theater. I have an excellent memory and recall details from events and even movies I saw when I was three, and that was 35 years ago. My current theory is that there was an alternate linking scene filmed between the sail barge explosion and the ships taking off that was cut at the last minute but some footage remained on the end of a reel that was meant to be changed before those frames would have been seen.
     
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    Something similar happened to me but for TPM. In the theaters I was sure that the duel between Maul vs. Obi-wan/Qui-gon was a little longer than the VHS tape that I bought months later, always when I watch that scene I sense that something its missing. I think it was a dream or i was imagining things...heheh
     
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    Many, many years ago i read something about a mysterious teaser or trailer for RotJ with a scene of Vader and Luke in an environment with ancient greek looking pillars. Does someone know anything about it?
     
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    Found the Article: http://webspace.webring.com/people/au/um_7143/lost_sw.txt

    Quote: "There is at least one more "early ROTJ" trailer then what was included on [Definitive Collection] discs, one shown during a re-release of "Star Wars" between the release of "TESB" and "ROTJ." It featured a glowing chain around Vader's neck (possibly just highly reflective) and had Vader and Luke within some kind of ancient Greek-like structure. [I saw it] as part of a tape with various "SW" related items on it. Until then all I had was a [memory of seeing it] with my parents just before a re-release of "SW" (I wish I could remember the date, or for that matter the year). It's one of the few memories I have of seeing "Star Wars" in theaters that hasn't been corrupted by time on the Internet (i.e., "Hey, I think I remember that scene too..." variety) It must have been pretty darn rare, as I have yet to see anyone else mention it."
     
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    Some of the "deleted scenes" were just never finished. That's why Lucas can't include them in any of the re-releases. My favorite RotJ unfinished scene is Luke vs the Rancor. As a kid I always thought that part was so lame, Luke acts so helpless even though he clearly has many options at his disposal.

    Well, in this scene Luke super jumps back up to the grate (which has since closed back up). Suspended from there he waits for the Rancor to get below him (some of Jabba's goons might try to stomp on his fingers, I've read different reports), then Luke falls onto one of its eyes, dazing the beast, and proceeds to drop the giant door on him.

    The story is that the scene was too complicated to shoot effects-wise, which I get. It would need to look believable to work. But man, it would'a been awesome to see.
    --- Double Post Merged, Aug 20, 2015, Original Post Date: Aug 20, 2015 ---
    There are pics of Luke suspended from the grate online. Check'em out.
     
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    I wrote earlier about an odd inserted scene when I first saw ROTJ in the theater. I had no explanation and it was a memory and image I had since I first saw it. After narrowing it down to a reel change issue, I went back and watched that scene just after Chewie is put in the cell. Then I had a revelation. When Han is thrown into the cell later he is cast in a bright light, staggers, and puts his hand on the wall. It was the image I had seen over 30 years ago, but it somehow never registered after well over 50 views. Originally there was a abrupt cut, a few seconds of Han, then a reels change countdown, then back to the movie. In the context I had Han was in a bright light, and I assumed it was outside. I was trying to place the scene somewhere later because that made sense, even though that image did not fit in any other scene. What I'm guessing must have happened is they started the second reel too far in, I saw a few seconds of Han, then they stopped it, ran the film back, and restarted it in a hurry, hence the countdown. Funny how a simple projectionists error caused me to have a 30 year unsolved mystery. Now it's been solved though!
     
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    Funny, I seem to remember it like that as well, but as time goes on I tend to fill in the blanks with things that never happened. For example, I seen STAR WARS in 1978 on it's release at the Drive-In and I don't really remember "A NEW HOPE" just remember STAR WARS. I always remembered it that way because my grandfather had a 8 mil of the original opening that he would project to us on his projector before we watched family Christmas movies. ALater, I found out that "A NEW HOPE" was for sure in the title released in 1978.
     
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    The Greek scene with Vader & Luke could have been a unused dream sequence or vision Luke has that was deleted for any # of valid reasons.

    In the Marvel Comics version of the Tarkin(a huge Death Star type WMD) Vader & Luke square off again but Vader's scheme goes wrong.

    TFM
     
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