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Did Ben Say...?

Discussion in 'Star Wars: The Rise of Skywalker' started by SegNerd, Dec 20, 2019.

  1. SegNerd

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    I loved the Han Solo scene, and it's great how it paralleled the scene from TFA but in a sort of "redeemed" version. But there was also something else I noticed about this scene:

    Ben: Dad...?
    Han: I know.

    If you look at the history of Han saying "I know," I believe it is strongly implied that Ben silently said "I love you."

    Do you agree?
     
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    Absolutely or at least words to that effect
     
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    I agree! I loved the scene and consider it to be the movie's emotional peak. It's also the last thing Ben ever says in the movie. He has no speaking dialogue from that point on, all the way to his death.
     
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    Oh wow you're right. That's so obvious now. My initial thought was that Ben was going to say "I'm sorry" but now I realize it was a play on "I love you" "I know". How could I have possibly missed that? This is why I'm eager for a thread where all of these parallels and threads across the entire saga can be pointed out to me. I noticed a lot of them but obviously even the most obvious escaped me. Wow that one little detail just made the movie even better for me. Thank you.
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    Whoa. That's also amazing observation. You guys are, you're good.
     
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    His actual last line/word is “Ow” when he jumps down the shaft and lands awkwardly rushing to get to Rey after arriving on the planet.

    And yes, I wish I was joking.
     
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    He may not of said them, but Han knew he was going to say it. I didn't personally hear it, but while watching I got the feeling he was going to say it before Han interrupted. Still need to watch it a couple hundred more times lol
     
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    Great catch!

    Makes the scene even better.
     
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    Yes. Probably only long term fans would get the significance of that moment (among many other moments in the movie)
     
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    I may not like the whole movie, but that scene was fantastic. Great parallel to the scene in TFA, they both did great job, also clever way around 'Han can't be Force ghost' issue by making it play out in Kylo's mind, which also makes the scene in TFA better.
     
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    Am I the only one who finds it kinda sad, that Ben's only word was "Dad"? Then he didn't talk for the remaining 20 minutes anymore.

    But IMO this was one of the best scenes in the movie, mainly because the movie took some time to breathe. And yes, he wanted to say "I love you".
     
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    Ben doesn't actually say it but he was about to.

    Ben"Dad" and just about to speak.

    Han"I know"
     
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    It also was the perfect Bendemption. Ben had to redeem himself, no one could do this for him so therefore all this moment needed was Ben and his memory of Han.
     
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    He's last word was technically "ow", but I'm just being a prick. I mean, it's not like he wasn't doing stuff at the end.
     
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    Sad does not even begin to express on how I feel about this...
     
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    The scene is also regret. Han is gone and only there in memory.

    The line “I know what I have to do, but I dont know if I have the strength to do it,” almost killed me in the theater.
     
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    Holy eff!! Now I love that scene 100x more!! I caught the "I know" part but I just thought it was Han getting to say a signature line again. Now I see it was accomplishing so much more!!! Ahhh!! So great!! Thank you for posting this!!

    ... can't believe I didn't catch it the first time.
     
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    Honestly, after that scene he isn't even on screen for awhile. He kind of just disappeared.
     
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    Never to be seen again? :D
     
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    That's correct lol

    He then comes running back, almost falls in the pit, takes out the KoR(who I forgot were in the movie), gets zapped, thrown into a pit, climbs out, heals Rey, gets a smooch, dies...never to be seen again.
     
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    Is Ben though talking to Han as if Han is there, but not really there?
     
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