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Did Disney Make A Mistake by Giving Us Rogue One After TFA?

Discussion in 'Rogue One' started by Amanaman, Nov 29, 2016.

  1. Amanaman

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    For quite some time now I have been reading posts on the internet and talking to people about Rogue One and I have to say that I am just a teeny bit worried. While so far RO looks like it's going to be awesome, it's the fact that many people are expecting to hit the theatres on Dic 15-16 waiting to see the further adventures of Rey, Poe and Finn that has me worried. Being hardcore SW fans, we sometimes forget that many people don't know all the info that we do. We sometimes expect everyone to be up to date with everything SW and where each movie goes but sadly this is not the case and many families who are ready to see Kylo and BB-8 this christmas are going to be surprised and maybe even disappointed that they will be getting Vader and K2SO instead.

    I have read that the success of RO is the factor that will determine if Disney continues to make anthology films. Sure I already know that they are working on the young Han Solo movie but what happens if no matter how good RO turns out to be, people get angry and start to bash the film because they weren't expecting that movie but Episode 8?

    And before anybody tells me, yes I know that the title says ''A Star Wars Story'' and whatnot but as I said before, all of us here in the Cantina know this but there are tons of people who sadly don't understand this. Take a look at TPM and ROTS, these movies are among the highest grossing movies of all time and even with that, the bashing and trolling was so much that Lucas got fed up and sold SW off. What will happen if the same happens to RO? Will Disney understand that it was do to their mistake of giving us RO before they finished the ST or will they blame us fans?

    So far RO looks like it's going to rock and I'm very thrilled that this movie can open great new possibilities for great movies beyond the classic JEDI vs Sith storyline. Bounty Hunter movies, films about Smugglers, Non Jedi/Sith Force users and so on are just a few of the wonderful things we might be seeing in the future but this may not be possible if RO gets bad hype and I really hope this doesn't happen. What do you guys and gals think?
     
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  2. Messi

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    In 1997 during the exibithions of the Especial Edition I saw people came out of the theather complaiing that they were the same movie old movies...So, people are stupid and some of them dont expend five minutes reading or researching a little bit about the movie that they will see. It doesnt matter, they paid for the tickets anyways.
     
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    I can see your worry but I don't think it is going to hurt. The population in general, even the casual fans, has had 33 years to digest the ST and know that Darth Vader died and was redeemed. The PT solidified that a prequel trilogy could be made without confusing anyone.in I think RO should do ok. The commercials have shown the major characters which are not Rey, Finn, and Kylo. They have also show Darth Vader who is known to be dead and they are stealing the plans to the Death Star. IMO, I don't think there will be too much of a problem. I know there will be the usual that always have to complain about something, but as a whole, I feel it will do fine.
     
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    When we talk about Disney, we talk about the company that will in a few years celebrate its 100th birthday. They have, guaranteed, thought about every worry or fear we have 100 times more and deeper than we have. And if Disney thought about it from the business perspective, Lucasfilm thought about it from the creative one. Their legacy is one of taking chances and pushing boundaries. What I am saying is that the business side and the creative side decided that the risk is worth taking. It is worth financial profit and it's worth creative future of the franchise.

    They need to do only one thing - to deliver a good movie. Everything else will be just fine. :)
     
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    One of the primary reasons they showed Vader in the trailers was because of this very issue.

    Even casual fans who watched TFA can conclude that he is dead. Then they see him alive in the R1 trailers. So they at least know this isn't a sequel to TFA.

    Disney knows what they're doing.

    The prequel comparison doesn't work here. They're generally hated because of what they themselves are. Not because of some release order issue.

    If Rogue One is a fine film, things will be fine. Even if it's not, people will be hype for EpisodesVIII and beyond.
     
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    Or Lucasfilm does, an offshoot of Disney.
     
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    I understand your words my friend and I agree with you but believe it or not, when the PT came out, even after all the publicity, there were many people arguing about were where Luke, Han and Leia.
     
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    Oh absolutely

    Just not enough for it to derail anything
     
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    That's cool and believe me, I don't want anything to be derailed cause I want a Bounty Hunter movie to happen!!!
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    The campaign really has me excited about the movie, but I do feel that they could have done a better job of explaining the timeline for the "regular" viewer. A simple "Before the First Order. Before the destruction of the Empire. Before there was A New Hope", tagline in the trailers. This would have been a simple way to explain the timeline.
     
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    I spoke about this on another thread can't seem to remember which one but yeah they're people that will go to the theater and think that Jyn Erso is Rey or wonder what happened to Finn? Nevertheless, if its a good movie none of that will matter. A couple of months ago a co-worker was surprised when I told him a new Star Wars movie was being released in December because he thought ep. 8 was a few years away. He is a casual Star Wars fan and he is now looking forward to R1. So if you know someone that likes Star Wars just break it down to them and all will be fine.
     
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    I completely agree. That would have been the best way to avoid confusion and it would have helped much as there are also lots of children who are going to see the movie as well and might end up real sad that they didn't see the characters they wanted to see.
     
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    I wonder, though, if had they done that would people have instantly thought "ugh... another prequel?" Seems to me that they managed to balance a fine line, and now that we're super close to release and the hype has been built, they are really emphasizing how this is a precursor to the original.
     
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    I never thought it to be possible but in fact a few days ago a friend asked me why ep viii will be out 2016 instead of 2017! Then she told me how much she loves Star Wars and how excited she is..i told her what RO is and she was a little sad. So i agree with u.
     
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    Great and valid question mate. I know a couple of people who are a little confused about Rogue One in terms of where it stands in the story - but as someone else on here said; the fact that Vader is shown as alive in the marketing is probably one of the biggest giveaways that this isn't Episode 8.

    I've also noticed that the whole tone in marketing is very different. It's more mature and dark. Disney and Lucasfilm have some of the best marketing talent in the world - I'm sure they've thought this through thoroughly and have anticipated different reactions - such as Bob Iger (CEO of Disney) stating that they know that Rogue One won't earn as much money as TFA.

    Although there a lot of stupid or naïve people out there, I wouldn't underestimate film-goers. I think you'd be surprised how many non-Star Wars fans now understand that this is an anthology film.

    However, my Final Thought is that I'm happy that we're getting a Star Wars film every year for years to come. But we know that this is for financial profit. It would make more sense to keep the trilogies together and have a year in-between each film and once the trilogy ends, make a series of anthology films. But Disney didn't buy Lucasfilm to make a couple of films. This is for the long haul. Rogue One is really going to shape the future of Star Wars.
     
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    I would have preferred getting first the ST and after this the anthology movies. I still think it may confuse people too much. ;)
     
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    Instead of burning down the bonfire they try to balance things out and give things its time, for me it is understandable. ANd this confusion may settle until the movie hits the theaters. Normally you don't focus on the people that are that easily confused. The trailer, the title and soon, gives one or two minor hints that this is not an episode.

    It is a ballsy move, but some guys asked for a little more risk, right?
     
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    As the weeks go by I actually feel I'm increasingly less interested in Rogue One and more interested in Episode VIII. I think it is a massive mistake to put the anthology movies in between the saga movies. I'm not opposed to the concept of saga movies itself, but it feels a bit like an unnecessary midget in the shadow of a giant. But as you say, yes the trolling will only get worse, the more star wars movies come out, the more trolling we will see. Just see the comments under this recent video:


    The ranking is reasonable, TFA #3, ANH #2, ESB #1 (I would place TFA on place #2, but never mind), the people who just instantly get triggered to ignore everything else and pour scorn and abuse on Star Wars latest installment is just hilarious. Because remember, people are very inclined to downgrade new over traditional. But in fact this group of actual die hard haters and trolls, the people who leave 1/10 reviews on IMDB, Rotten Tomatoes and even shops like Amazon, is actually very small. The problem is that they have a big voice. Many outlets conceive this big voice to be "reality" and general reception, but fortunately most of them don't. The influence of this small group of trolls is very small. It won't influence the critics' reception of any of the upcoming Star Wars films.
     
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    I worrie that were not gonna see standards set up in Georgs time, when we got epic storys like the prequels movies. I personally couldn't care am not interested in bounter huntys and smugglings.
     
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    Welcome to the cantina.

    I don't think it was mistake, we need a new one every year.
     
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