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SPECULATION Did Kylo save Rey?

Discussion in 'Star Wars: The Force Awakens' started by Jon T Zon, Jan 30, 2016.

  1. Jon T Zon

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    I’v read the theory about Kylo Ren not being able to kill Rey in the attack of the new Jedis. What if we see this happen in TFA? In the force flashback Rey is laying on the ground and suddenly Kylo Rens lightsaber pierces someone standing close to her.
    My theory is this:
    What if Rey experiences that thru her own “younger version eyes?”. The person standing close to her is a knight of ren about to kill her. Kylo sees this and realizes he cant let the kill her. So he kill he knight. Hid Rey and eventually bring her to Jakku. The official version is that the knight of ren was killed in action. No one saw and knows it was Kylo ren who killed hem

    Well that’s my theory, all speculation. What do you think?
     
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    I believe that will be a plot twist in VIII or IX. Considering that Rey and Ben were at Luke's academy together, Ben may have grown fond of Rey, explaining why he would save her life. Same thing with Rey, she respected Ben.

    I'm thinking that right before Ben was seduced to the darkside and would go on the killing spree, he left Rey on Jakku with Unkar Plutt. But when the KOR were able to track her down, Ben was able to save her at the last minute.

    Rey might have more force visions in VIII which will have the same sequences, just more detail.
     
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    Who said it was Kylo lightsaber ? Who said Rey was physically there ? She wasn't in Bespin, she wasn't with Luke and R2, those are force visions.

    Pablo Hidalgo made it very clear that Rey was already in Jakku when the slaughter occured. She wasn't in the academy at that time.
     
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    and JJ said Cumberbatch wasn't playing Khan.
     
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    In the vision Kylo Ren seems to be grown man, he is tall as an adult, I wasn't tall as I am when I was 15.

    BTW, I know everybody will change every visible hint to absolutely make their theories come true so I won't fight in the wind.
     
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    I don't understand this theory.
     
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    If Rey knew Ben before he turned to the dark side, why doesn't she recognize him when he takes off his mask? He wouldn't look very different from what he did when he turned to the dark side.

    A couple other things to consider. No one has ever actually said that Ben Solo killed all the Jedi in training. Han said that one of Luke's students did. It is implied that it was Ben, but never stated.

    Also, I think that the portion of Rey's vision that had the KOR may be an event in the future, not the past. We may see that scene in episode 8 or 9.
     
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    Why would Kylo do any of this? Why save her? Why hide her? Why take her to Jakku?

    I think those are questions that would need to be answered in order for this theory to establish some plausibility.
     
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    If that's the case then all of the visions would have to be from a young Rey. The visitations are supposed to happen through the experiences of the LIGHTSABER. Also, while your idea about Kylo and The KOR, right after they kill the "clan leader" (which is his confirmed name), the ALL 7 KOR are seen standing menacingly in the rain around the rest of the bodies .
     
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    Good point about that. Maybe a simple mind wipe would be the reason she doesn't recognize him, but that sounds a little crass. I'll have to watch TFA again to see if they ever mention anything about Ben killing Luke's jedi. If Ben didn't kill all the jedi, then who did and why did he turn to the darkside? I'm sort of on the edge of whether that vision of the KOR is in the past or future... It would make more sense if it was in the future because there may be a scene when Rey encounters the KOR for the first time, and the reason Kylo Ren killed that guy was to fight Rey himself.

    Can't wait to see the direction they take in VIII. The script is done! Less than 2 years away...
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    What I find weird is that after Kylo Ren killed the "clan leader", the rest of the KOR just stood there like nothing happened... Who was this "clan leader" really?
     
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    Pablo Hidalgo isn't God, he certainly inst Kathleen Kennedy
     
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    We know who the actor was :p and the full-KOR shot was afterwards but none of the shots were in succession technically speaking so maybe they did stand there as if nothing happened or maybe it's a little bit after the killing and they're just simply surveying the damage ...
     
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    Did she say that it was Kylo Ren in the force vision ?
     
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    Just a little over two months until TFA comes out on blu-ray, then I get to watch the vision scene over and over (and frame by frame!) and ponder this!
     
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    Who said it isn't Kylo's lightsaber? Who said she physically weren't there? She definately were wround when she saw herself get left on Jakku.
    About what Pablo Hidalgo might have said. Well i don't read and remember absolutely everything someone say about starwars. So my theories isn't waterproof. I just think its more fun to speculate and come up with my own theories then spend hours and hours to read.

    Anyway your post do make sense tho.
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    Why do all have to be from a young Rey? We alreddu got one from young Rey and some where she isnt around.
     
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    I say that because I believe that it's canon that the visions are actually coming from the crystal inside of the saber which is calling to Rey hence "Tee Force Awakening" and the visions that Reybsees I believe are because the saber itself was present during all of those visions (which they clearly were) . This has major implications such as was Luke present during the massacre of the clan leader? Was the THen-owner of the saber present when Rey was left on Jakku? Was the saber present in the forest where Kylo shows up (it was yards away) ?
     
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    I just have a quick question

    Clan leader? How can this vision take place in the future- Kylo already is the main leader of the Knights of Ren, is he? We all know that Snoke called him "master of the Knights of Ren".

     
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    Well Kylo did show compassion twice to Rey in the movie. In the interrogation scene and in the lightsabre fight. Though I don't think the attacker was a knight of Ren.....
     
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    There is some chemistry between Ben and Rey, what if Ben adopt Skywalker and marry Rey at the end of Episode IX (take for grant that she is not a skywalker or solo) that would make her Rey Skywalker? Isn't this what Treverow called a satisfied conclusion? Haha just kidding.
     
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    No, but i was just joking about how people values Hidalgo's tweets like the scriptures, i take his word in simple things like Rey is 19 and Kylo is 29, that won't change, but he is not the one deciding the exactly timeline of the most important event of the ST (The Academy attack) , an event that yet is to be decided when or how it happened, KK and probably JJ Abrahms will have the final say in this matter, with inputs from Rian and Trevorrow.

    Hidalgo is a big deal in Canon, but not that big deal, that's my point.
     
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