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Did Luke die, or choose to become one with the Force?

Discussion in 'Star Wars: The Last Jedi' started by Sparafucile, May 18, 2018.

  1. Pawek_13

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    It's a metaphor.
     
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    I believe many people have the right idea, Leia obviously knew he was gone (so he is dead of course) and he simply was of the utmost calibre with the force he could obviously astro project!
    He was old and I think projecting himself light years away took a serious amount life FORCE and he stayed too long, but he knew he had to buy them time any way he could!

    If he died from anything other than a heart attack, it was over exerting his life FORCE and then that was it. The light saber didn't do anything to his ASTRO PROJECTION!
    How would someone die from a mortal wound if he wasn't there as a mortal?

    Come on people, if anyone had watched the saga they would get this! You don't have to know quantum mechanics to get stuff like that!
     
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    Except in TLJ, if I remember well, Kylo touched rain through the force Skype with Rey, which as others have eluded to, was foreshadowing that force projections could feel effects from a distance. It's possible Kylo even mentions the danger involved with utilizing that type of power. I'm not a huge fan of force Skype or projection, but RJ did a good job setting a precedent for it within the movie.
     
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    If it is the case that you can feel effects from a distance, then it would ruin the whole point of that scene for me.
    Kylo wanted to kill Luke all by himself, to let the past die and get further into the dark side. But Luke is smarter than Kylo. So he killed himself to let Kylo never have this success of killing his uncle. Thus he can never be full blown dark side.

    That's my interpretation of that scene and I think it's correct. Otherwise how do you explain Kylo's pure shock and "no", as he realised what's just happening?
     
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    I think the water thing was more of a parlor trick by Snoke, who was using a different sort of ability. He was bridging minds and Luke was projecting.
    Sort of like Yoda's force lightning on the tree. Is he able to go ape blast on some troops? doubtful. but using some static electricity to light a dead tree on fire?
     
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    Isn't it heavily implied in the novel and in the movie itself, that Snoke is lying about him bridging their minds? Snoke can read minds and he's using it for his advantage, but the mind bridge is by the force. If Snoke can bridge Rey's mind with Kylo's one, then he would know where Rey and thus Luke are. So nah, I doubt that it is Snoke's ability.
     
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    He achieved perfect union with the force and ascended to a higher plane. Saying that he "died from the effort" is oversimplifying the significance of the act.
     
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    Implied that he's exaggerating how much of it he's doing iirc.
    He's involved but not THE cause. He's poking it with a stick
     
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    I would say that since the force connection exists even after Snoke's death then there's probably some truth in that. We will probably know more in 9 :)
     
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    Perhaps he was just teleporting haha just kidding

    I think he sacrificed himself--- dying a real hero's death--- something truer to "Luke Skywalker" than most viewers realize.
     
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    I agree
     
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    I don't know for sure. Honestly I think it could've happened to Rey if Luke hadn't been there. Then Luke projected himself from that very spot. Maybe he caught onto something while helping Rey. Who knows? Another mystery we'll have to wait on what J.J. decided on what actually happened.
     
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