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SPECULATION Did Luke use Qui-Gon's Kyber Crystal?

Discussion in 'Original Trilogy' started by Canadian Ronin, Jan 13, 2017.

  1. AstromechRecords

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    from my experience, comics get rebooted easily. They literally cannot reboot star wars so as ar esult the series will just bleed one into the other.
     
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    I’m not saying they'll run out of ‘time’. They’ll run out of ‘patience’. They need to keep their readership engaged and there’s only so much indulgence they can spare before people start to lose interest. It’s only logical. They have to progress the story at some point if they want to keep attention with this title.
    The period between ESB and ROTJ is a full year. Using your earlier logic, they could conceivably stretch that out for several arcs. We’re talking about the main ‘Star Wars’ book here. I think it’s way more likely that they’ll wrap up with the pre-ESB material, move on to pre-ROTJ, and then go beyond and integrate with the ‘Shattered Empire’ limited piece. From there, anything’s fair game. The title is a catchall for the franchise as a whole.
    Except is takes a year for this to play out. So, realistically, something significant does have to happen in between. Otherwise the difference should only be a couple weeks or so.
     
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    Yoda lost his lightsaber on Coruscant in the duel with Sidious.


    Qui Gon Jinn's crystal from out of the saber hilt would make sense.

    Kyber crystals were not an easily sourced item as it is in the OT era and as far as canon on screen and other canon sources go - logically Obi Wan does have a connection for Luke to source the knowledge and materials from.
     
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    Maybe he used his own kyber crystal.

    Why Luke wouldn't be able to find one ? There are many jedis with green laser saber in Star Wars. Ahsoka had a pair of them and many many others.

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    I think there are literally endless stories in that time frame they can tell. They haven't touched Luke joining/forming Rogue squadron (for example).

    I agree there is time to set issues between ESB and RotJ, but as I also pointed out, its a much more focused time frame. What are Luke and Leia going to do while they are mainly concerned with Han, and in Lukes case finish his training? Are Lando and Chewie going to give up chasing Fett to go have other adventures? There is definately a story to be told there, but its not wide open and free the way ANH-ESB period is.
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    But the Empire was running around killing everyone who might be a Jedi, and scooping up crystals to build super lasers at that point. Luke would probably have a harder time finding one then Kit Fisto would.
     
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    It's the crystal calling to the jedi. The empire has nothing to do with it.
     
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    I’m certainly not debating that there’s much more story to tell between 4 and 5. I fully expect them to stay there for a good while longer - probably up to the founding of Echo Base. What I’m saying is that eventually they’ll have to move on. It seems common sense, to me anyways, that this run won’t end never having left this window of time.
     
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    And I've agreed wit you. I'm just pointing out that the ESB-RotJ gap is much different. Its much shorter and has a much stronger focus. The group of heroes have a clear mission and direction. That kind of story lends itself to a limited series rather then a long running, ongoing one.
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    You understand that the Empire have a presence on a lot of planets. That they have agents who's job it is to hunt down Jedi and someone going for a kyber crystal would be something they'd watch for that very reason. That they blew up one of the major (if not only) sources of kyber crystals. That they have horded huge amounts of them for two Death Star weapons etc... Luke isn't going to just walk into Tache Station and buy a Kyber Crystal, his choice of colour.
     
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    Your example is bad. Luke went on Jabba's palace full of empire's lads at the start of Rotj. There are many places in the galaxy without any empire's presence.
     
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    That’s pretty much my point though. Why would Marvel bother with a limited series? They already have an ongoing series named ‘Star Wars’. Once they’ve exhausted the current era, then they move on to the next. Otherwise, you have concurrent storylines, with the same characters, in two different time periods. That’s not insane, but needlessly complicated IMO. Meh, agree to disagree I suppose.
     
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    Ahsoka had to kill an Inquisitor and take his lightsabers because she could not find crystals anywhere else. Her novel and Catalyst touched on the Empire's obsession with Kyber Crystals and the mining of any planet where they were found. They even pilfered crystals from the lightsabers of fallen Jedi after Order 66. The Qui-Gon Crystal theory makes sense.
     
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    Really ? She had some weapons during the Clone Wars from what I've seen ...

    Ahsoka wasn't a jedi anymore before Rebels. The Force works in mysterious ways.

    She should have gone to Jeddha there were thousands of them.
     
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    The Empire was on Jeddha... taking all of the crystals. Ahsoka traveled to worlds that contained crystals but they were on Imperial lockdown so trying to get one would have been suicide. Luke would have encountered the same problem. It would probably be even tougher since the Empire needed more crystals for the 2nd Death Star. I'm not saying he couldn't have found another way to get one but crystals weren't just laying around for anyone to grab. They were a rare commodity that was being ruthlessly pursued by the Empire.
     
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    So Obi Wan gave Luke, Anakin's lightaber and Qui Gon's crystal in case he lose the first one ?

    ...
     
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    The premise, as I understood it, was that Luke discovers the crystal in Obi-Wan’s hut on Tatooine just before the Han rescue in ROTJ. He doesn’t complete his green saber until then, which is in line with the deleted scene of him tweaking it before sending the droids to Jabba’s palace.

    EDIT: This doesn’t account for how Luke could have gotten more skilled with a lightsaber not having access to one for a whole year until that point though.
     
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    And what does that bring to the story ? Why didn't he get the whole saber ?
     
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    Qui-Gon was his teacher. Luke was his student (for like a day). There's some poetry about that I think. Maybe the crystal was all O.B. kept after they roasted him back in TPM. Hey, I never claimed it was MY theory. I’m still hitching my star to Yoda :)

    *THREAD DERAILMENT*
    He most definitely does get separated from his saber dueling Palps. However, if you agonize over the frames - like a genuine madman (over and over again like the Zapruder film), you can see an object on Yoda’s hip when he jumps down into Bail’s speeder that looks an awful lot like the green guy’s adorable little laser sword. I could be mistaking it with the communicator he uses to speak with Bail just prior to that. BUT, it’s a noticeably different shape and color and clipped in a different position. The dude is a CG character, so could be an innocent art error. Just . . . putting that out there.
    *RESUME THREAD*
     
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    I'm doubtful.

    So Luke was incompetent to find his own kyber crystal, he was the recycling dude ...
     
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    Well, the blade is GREEN :D

    Desperate times . . . desperate measures . . . desperate fans - you know how it is :)
     
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    This goes to another thread but that guy who's enable to find his own kyber crystal is supposed to change the jedi code.

    How paradoxical is that ?
     
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