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SPECULATION Did Obi-Wan Kenobi know about the Rebel Alliance pre-ANH?

Discussion in 'Rogue One' started by PrincessLeiaCB3, Aug 29, 2016.

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Do you think Obi-Wan was contacted by the Rebellion before ANH?

  1. Yes - he might have known about it and it might be explored further in Rebels or a spin-off.

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  2. No - it does not make sense. Princess Leia message was quite straightforward to get him involved.

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  3. Undecided - there might be a chance but not sure.

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  1. C3-Steve-O

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    Actually, this whole thing might make some sense.

    Because of a mysterious new super-weapon, the Rebel Alliance plots a major strike against the Empire, and so they need to organize as many former allies as possible. Jyn is dispatched by Mon Mothma to Jedha to recruit (presumably) Saw Gerrera. While Leia is dispatched by Bail to Tatooine to recruit Obi-Wan.

    While fleeing from Jedha, Jyn sees the powerful new weapon in action, and so a hasty assault is planned. During the attack, Jyn manages to steal the Death Star plans, but she's unable to escape.

    From the Rebel base on Yavin IV, Mon Mothma and Bail follow the assault. Realizing Jyn's in trouble, Bail suggests she beam the plans to Leia's ship, as it happens to be the only Rebel vessel in the area.

    Once Leia's ship receives the plans, it's under immediate attack by Vader's Star Destroyer. Leia knows she'll never escape, so she hides the plans in Artoo and sends the little droid to find their only ally in the area -- the former Jedi she was originally sent to recruit.
     
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    All those new, open questions that arise from thinking in that direction. Well, the Bail-Leia-Kenobi-Luke -Alderaan connection brings new facets of the story forward.
     
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  3. PrincessLeiaCB3

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    That would be definitely good.

    Just reading again the junior novelisation of ANH by Alexandra Bracken, just confirmed several things:

    - Leia first part of the mission was to receive the transmission of the Death Star plans. Second part of the mission was to set off to Tatooine and go search for Kenobi to take him to Alderaan.
    - Artoo and Threepio were property of Captain Antilles and she was not acquainted with them (especially since when she looks for a droid, she calls Artoo "Droid!"). Guess even when C3PO was mind-wiped, Artoo still knew too much and Bail didn't want to risk her finding out the truth of her past.
    --- Double Post Merged, Aug 30, 2016, Original Post Date: Aug 30, 2016 ---
    From the novelisation I mentioned above, it seems the plan all along was to send Leia in a cover "mercy mission" nearby to receive the Rebel transmissions of the Death Star plans.

    From the same novelisation, Leia's first part of the mission was to receive the transmission of the Death Star plans. Second part of the mission was to set off to Tatooine and go search for Kenobi to take him to Alderaan.
     
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    The plan may have been to bring Yoda back too. In ROTS while on Naboo, before Padme's funeral, Yoda tells Obi-Wan and Bail "Until the time is right we shall disappear." Maybe only Obi-Wan knew he was on Dagobah. What is not shown is how Yoda arrived there.
     
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    My gut tells me that yes, he knew before ANH. While he was on Tatooine living quietly under the radar, it was obvious that he did make visits to "town" based on what he told Luke about Mos Eisley being a "hive of scum and villainy".

    There is no doubt in my mind that he expected a rebellion to arise, and also only makes sense to me that in any cantina, he'd evesdrop on travelers having conversation, learning what he could about the status of life off-world, and then the are the "boasters" that get drunk and spill secrets they know....even about some puny rebellion. Obi-Wan knew, and was just waiting for it to come to him...he was expecting it.
     
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  6. PrincessLeiaCB3

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    I've been wondering how much Leia knew about the Force and the Jedi. This because when she goes to the Lothal mission with the Rebels crew, she sees Kanan using his lightsaber and Ezra using the Force to defeat the stormtroopers and she doesn't even bat an eye.

    That very same mission seems to be the first she takes for the Rebel Alliance (she even says to herself "Well, there is no turning back now!"). She was 15 yrs old - a few days younger than Ezra - and introduced herself as "aide to Senator Bail Organa". Since she was 14 yrs old she was sitting in the Senate as a junior legislator.

    My big question is how much did she know about Obi-Wan, and if by any chance she interacted with Ahsoka before the latter went to Malachor. I know, it might not be that relevant but just because.
    --- Double Post Merged, Aug 30, 2016, Original Post Date: Aug 30, 2016 ---
    Also from the ANH junior novelisation:

     
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    I always wondered why the scene was deleted – for me it’s a key event for things to come!


    And did she experience force powers like her visions and precognitions already at that age or did they manifest later only? As what we now from force sensitive individuals, most start to show signs early on. Wouldn’t she get curios seeing Ezra and Kanan, and compare it with her own mysterious experiences?
     
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    So far the new canon have had scant mentions about her childhood. None yet of any Force abilities other than her intuition and ability to "read" people and such. I'd be definitely interested on learning more about that.
     
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    Probably because they only wanted to focus on the twins. Star Wars poetry, lol :D.
     
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    He knew but I don't think we'll see him in Rebels.
     
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    Huh. Now I'm starting to wonder if within this adventure/heist story isn't something that's more thematically and plot intensive to the BIG PICTURE - that is, there was the intention to get Leia and Luke together with Obi Wan's help. That maybe Bail, Yoda, etc. were aiming to bring them together under Obi Wan's tutelage. That could be sorta cool. It could also be forced and pointless. So fingers crossed.

    Regardless, I'd love to see some of those overarching plot and character threads make their way into these anthology films.
     
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    I know.

    There's so much we don't know! I was just re-reading the ANH junior novelisation and it mentions that Leia started combat training when she was 16. However, in the Princess Leia comics, she has a flashback when she is like a pre-teen and she's taking fighting lessons with a staff.

    In my headcanon, it would be awesome if before joining the Senate, she took those combat lessons with Ahsoka - before this one went to Malachor. I know, fan-service for my own self, but it would be really cool.

    Anyhow, that would be interesting to explore what was the bigger plan of Bail regarding Leia's mission.
     
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    Was that pre-teen stuff really combat training though? I thought it was more ceremonial :).
     
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    It seems like combat training.

    leia combat training.png
     
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    I thought that was basic combat training, and part of princess training :).
     
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    I'm sure Obi Wan & Bail Organa had further conversations via a communicator about the rebellions existence I guess that's why he was eager to rescue Leia.
     
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