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Did Sequel Trilogy kill Star Wars Saga?

Discussion in 'General Sequel Trilogy Discussion' started by KOBRAkon, Dec 20, 2019.

  1. Lukestarbucker

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    You know, I wouldn’t say kill. To be honest, Im not a huge ST fan. I did enjoy TFA, which I thought was amazing considering its similarities to one of my favorite films, ANH. Anyway, there are loads of people who have different opinions about the ST. Some don’t like it as much as those who do. But, saying that a trilogy killed the whole saga seems a but much, so I’m not gonna say that it did because in my opinion it did not. Now, I still am not too big on TLJ or TROS. But, they weren’t terrible, I just didn’t adore them like I do with some of the other saga films. So, no, killing the saga would take a lot of work haha. Maybe it killed the love of SW for some people, but not for me. Also, some people don’t like the PT, like my Father. Some people don’t like the OT like some of my buddies. But, none of these people have said that those trilogies have killed the saga. There are 3 trilogies, so there are so many possibilities for certain fans to like certain things in some of these films. For me, I’m all over the place in the saga and in all of the shows and series. Like I said, I don’t hate the ST but Im not that big on it. But I thought that a trilogy is a trilogy and Star Wars is Star Wars. So, no, the saga wasn’t killed by the ST, or better yet, will never be killed. Even people who don’t like some of the trilogies still find love in some of tue scenes or characters, or even some of the planets. To each their own.
     
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    For me, killing off Ben Solo killed the entire saga.

    Luke, Leia and Han all lived pretty full lives post the OT. So I wasn't upset by their fates in the ST, as long as they had an heir.
    But all I can' think of now is that everything they did was for nothing. Palpatine gloated that he saw the fall of the last Skywalker.
    And he did.
    The heroes are gone. Palpatine won.
    I never thought they'd end Star Wars like this.
     
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    I hear this a lot, but I have to disagree pretty hard. For me, Palpatine lost the moment Ben threw away Kylo's saber. He gives himself as a heroic sacrifice, his own choice to save Rey, who will carry on the Jedi and the Skywalker name.

    That's the ultimate irony. Palpatine's own line has be obliterated and subsumed into the Skywalker line. He gloats about seeing the end of Skywalker, and he maybe even thinks he did. But he doesn't realize that Skywalker is bigger than a family name. He doesn't realize that Skywalker is the heroic spirit that lives inside of Rey. It's the hero's journey she's taken over the course of the trilogy.
     
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    I still giggle every time I see this thread.
     
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    Haha lol
     
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    There was no way on earth Ben could be allowed to live after everything he did. People try to hand wave it away with 'he was maniipulated!'. But that's hard to excuse when he's an adult man pushing 30 and there are characters who have gone through worse than him, yet have not hurt others. Disney and LF have always been about the bad guy getting his just deserts. What kind of message would it serve to the general public if the villain (who killed his father, and hundreds of innocents) gets to ride off into the sunset with his girlfriend?

    The best Disney should have done was split the film into two movies. Kill off Ben, turn Rey into the dark side. And come back with another film where Ben is rescued from the WBW and gets Rey back. Hopefully given the financial fall out of COVID, Disney won't be completely shut the door on the idea of doing a sequel in the not too distant future with the ST cast.
     
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    I don’t like it the ST, but to say it “killed the saga” is ludicrous
     
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    Same to similar opinion here
     
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    The sequel Trilogy didn’t ruin star wars, even though they are my least favorite 3 movies in the saga.

    Prior to the ST, I viewed the prequels as “good but not as good as the OT.” Now, in a post-ST world, I can honestly admit the prequels are my FAVORITE Star Wars films because they’re now the most distinct pieces of the saga. (ST tried to hard to imitate the OT, visually and thematically. The prequels are the only SW films that feel “fresh” if you get what I’m saying.)
    Disney can learn from the criticism of the ST. Hopefully we’ll get the best Star Wars movies possible in 2023 (or whatever the date is now.)
     
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    Hmm. I agree to an extent of things. So yeah, I do 100% agree that the ST is trying so hard to be like the OT. It feels odd and unnecessary. I feel that when making a trilogy, it should feel and look fresh as it covers new points in SW. In my opinion, still the ST wasn’t terrible but still at the #3 spot of all the trilogies. But, for me, the most fresh trilogy is the OT because it couldn’t have copied anything and it was such a new and amazing experience for people who just started watching SW in 1977 to onward. But in a very very close second I have the PT. The PT is a good way to introduce the Clone Wars as mentioned in the OT. It brings us new characters and gives us a perspective of the younger versions of characters from the OT. Anyway, good post! :)
     
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    SW wasn't dead after the prequels, the movies that divided the fandom back in that time. I think SW is much better now, after the Sequels, Solo and R1 than before for example.
     
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    Except for the fact that the backlash against the PT is the reason that the ST comes across in terms of plot points as a copy and paste of the OT. I have yet to see a criticism with regard to the ST that seems to be about depth. When I read criticisms about the films that they are bad, because Kylo didn't kill/beat Rey. That tells me that these people are not interested in the films as entertainment or a piece of art. But just a projection of their personal wishfulfillment fantasy. And that is so sad. They just want a simplistic story where the heterosexual male hero is Luke or Han can do anything without any internal growth or suffering.

    Although awhile back I did see one interesting critique of the ST comparing it to Battlestar Galactica. Which I took as code for it's too cerebral.
     
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