Did TLJ kill the tradition of fan theories?

So if 75% of the fan theories want a Ren-demption LFL will make him stay evil?

If 75% of the fan theories want KR to stay evil LFL will make him good?

If 75% of the fan theories want the Rebels 2 win the FO wins instead?

How bleak.

 

There are fan theories, and then there are fan theories accompanied by tunnel-vision expectations/demands. I'd be fine if something caused the latter of those two to be done away with.

No matter how much of a Star Wars fan someone becomes, they are not entitled to having the story told their way.

Let the storyteller tell you their story. You're not required to like it.

 

Ironic, I just wrote briefly about this in the "subversion" thread.

I think in a way, it did. And that's not necessarily a bad thing, in my opinion. In the age of Game of Thrones and The Walking Dead, fan theories are slowly killing that sense of wonder in fiction. If there's a plausible, satisfying ending, it's highly possible you already read it happen on an internet forum. And I guess that "huh, that guy was right" feeling can be satisfying in its own right, but it's a far different experience than being totally blindsided by "No, I am your father".

With TLJ, we can really have almost nothing to go off of, at least until the first trailer comes out.

There's always the theories about Rey/Kylo, etc, but even with those characters it's hard to tell what JJ will do with them next. There's not even a consensus that Kylo will still be the primary villain come EpIX.

 

I agree that most are not that way.

 

But fan theories have never been about being "right". Hence the word: theory. I think there is something to be said about having some kind mystery left for 9. Side note: I wonder what it must been like being a fan in the 80s having 'no, I am your father!" Looming over the franchise. Also, most people complain that Lucas had too much creative control and thus the prequels suffered from it.

 

Making predictions is a part of life. What business would be successful without predictions? TLJ killed enthusiasm, and that's not easy to get back. Star Wars is not a political thriller. If Rian Johnson wants to do that. Then he picked the wrong franchise. Star Wars is a simple linear story.

The real problem is not fan theories. The problem is the characters don't act human. None of us can relate to these characters, because their actions are so bizarre.

 

There is not many things left to theorize at the moment except if you want to waste 2 more years of your life waiting for answers you will never have.

Anakin's lightsaber ?
Snoke's identity ?
Why Ben Solo hated Han Solo that much ?
Who are Rey's parents ?
Why Luke had a compass ? Why was he gone on the first jedi temple ?

You will have no answers.

You could have organize a contest to guess what line would be the first between Leia and Luke meeting again after all these years, I'm not sure many people would have say : Yes, I changed my hair ...

So why wasting our time ?

 

That's why it's called a mystery...what's the point of going to the theater if we could all predict the ending of 9?

 

The brilliant thing is to keep it mysterious even after the trilogy ended.

BTW, I don't see any mystery left after the end of this episode except who's broomboy but whatever.

 

Knowing who Broomboy was never the point of that scene...it was more the meaning behind Broomboy then who he actually is. Anyone can have the force, you don't need some super powerful bloodline to have it.

 

Except this isn't a mystery. Characters are doing things they shouldn't be doing. Leia comes across with no maternal instincts. Rey wants to save a guy who killed his father, and her only friend. Kylo's name is never brought up with the Resistance. I don't think they even know Kylo is Leia's son. How many would still help Leia if they knew that? This has nothing to do with mystery. It's simple story telling, and Rian ignored many things that could have given this movie some real weight.

 

I was ironic ...

But you pointed yourself a thing, there is absolutely no mystery left except maybe with Finn.

We know that he did sanitation on SKB, sweeping Snoke's ship but we still don't know where he was making the dishes.

Talking about solid backstories there !

You know, trilogy stuff.

 

I have to say that this above all else bothers me. Why was Luke on Ahch-To was one of TFA's big mysteries, and even the film's cliffhanger. We were not told in TLJ why was he there, in that place in particular. I would have found to be much more satisfying for Luke's arc in TLJ to know why had he gone to that island. That could have helped others who didn't like how Luke was portrayed in the film. Maybe in IX, but I'm not holding my breath.

 

Kill fan theories? No way. There's all kinds of theories floating around already about what will happen in Ep. 9. I actually like reading most of them and I think it's sort of fun to theorize on what might happen. For the most part, it's a harmless thing to do, the problem happens when someone latches on too hard to their own personal theory and then loses their minds when it doesn't pan out for them. I'd like to think that TLJ killed that aspect of it, but I doubt it. No matter what happens in Ep. 9, someone's going to be mad because their own personal theory didn't come true.

 

The answer is in episode VIII, Master Luke went to Acht To, a place very strong in the Force to ... disconnect himself with the Force.

Wise choice old man !

 

As far as Leia is concerned, she's been a general/politician pretty much her entire life. What does she know about raising a kid? Also, why does some grunt in the Resistance need to know who Kylo really is? Also, I don't that's a big deal anyway, because the entire galaxy knows who her father is and yet they still follow her. I doubt they would change their allegiances now if they knew who Kylo really is.

 

You know, that's the only satisfying hypothesis I made up to myself. He went there because it was the only place in the galaxy where he could disconnect himself from the force. But that begs the question: Why didn't he just kill himself? Why the trouble? If he went to that island to die, he did not need to die there, he could have died/killed himself in many other places.

The only other hypothesis I can come up with is that his plan was to first: Disconnect with the force, and second: To kill himself afterwards (perhaps what he was about to do when Rey showed up). This could be the only way to not turn into a force ghost, and therefore provide a permament death.

Could this be it?

 

Great topic. I was just thinking about this earlier. I think the "problem" is we don't have enough clear "who dunnit" style questions that are easy to hypothesize and answer. There are still things we could definitely theorize on, but most people are still too hung up on the stuff they were unhappy about in TLJ.

It's easier to be mad than creative.