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Did you notice anything ' New ' ?

Discussion in 'Star Wars: The Force Awakens' started by JeffG., Apr 6, 2016.

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    the detail of Starkiller base that didn't stand out in the theaters

    I wonder if they fixed that for the Bluray? Or is it just my eyes?
     
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    Did anyone notice anything new by watching with subtitles?

    Here's a couple things I've noticed so far: As Poe is flying in over Takodana, he says, "Don't let these thugs scare you" on the digital subtitles. (This is what I heard in the theater.) On the hard copy DVD subtitles, he says, "Don't let these dogs scare you"! :D

    Also, when Kylo has his fit of rage after he finds Rey gone, I thought he was just doing some random screaming. Apparently he's yelling, "Guards!"...?
     
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    i think the subtitles are on crack. Poe does says thugs, and Ren is not yelling guards.
    i actually noticed these things too.
     
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    It's dogs in the TFA script.
     
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    On bluray i could make out a bunch more star destroyers hanging around starkiller base. I used to just assume there were more or that kylos was the only one.
     
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    Watching on my laptop and with a reaaaally good pair of over the ear headphones... As Rey is sitting there with the helmet on, after eating her meal at home, and she hears BB-8 struggling to get free of Teedo, you can CLEARLY hear the droid saying "Let go of me"
     
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    I listened for this, and I heard BB-8 pretty much say exactly that! I also love the way he chirps, "Yep!" when Rey asks if he's really classified. :)
     
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    Actually there was an explanation... sorta. Like many moments in TFA, you must listen carefully to get finer details of minor narratives. In this instance, after 3PO interrupts Han and Leia's first meeting and then walks off with BB-8, he says "yes, I really must get my proper arm re-installed." And by the end of the movie... he did! :)
    --- Double Post Merged, Apr 13, 2016, Original Post Date: Apr 13, 2016 ---
    [QUOTE="Choose Light, post: 269546, member: 8091]" I also love the way he chirps, "Yep!" when Rey asks if he's really classified. :)[/QUOTE]

    Haha, I mentioned that on another thread.... so glad I am not the only one that caught that!
     
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    This One Shot comic will explain why Threepio got his red arm. Which this comes out tomorrow. Thankfully it's not a series.:)

    http://www.starwars.com/news/the-my...n-star-wars-special-c-3po-1-exclusive-preview
     
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    With the arrival of my own copy of TFA, I've had a chance to dissect the chapter/scene changes to try to find some of the creative reasons they are juxtaposed with each other—usually to evoke a comparison or contrast. Some are more significant than others, but here are some things I noticed:

    • FN-2187 --> Rey--Finn replaces his mask after talking with Phasma/cut to closeup of Rey’s scavenger mask

    • Saving BB-8 --> Interrogation--Rey says, “You’re welcome” to BB-8 as she offers him hospitality for the night/Kylo Ren says, “I had no idea we had the best pilot in the Resistance on board. Comfortable?”

    • Interrogation --> Unkar’s Offer--Hux: “If [the droid is] on Jakku, we’ll soon have it.” “I leave that to you.”/Rey to BB-8: ”Don’t give up hope. He still might show up.”

    • Unkar’s Offer --> Jailbreak--Rey won’t sell BB-8 for parts (or slavery)/Finn won’t stay in FO and rescues Poe

    • Kylo Is Updated--> Fixing the Falcon--Kylo: “What girl?”/cut to closeup of Rey

    • “Chewie, We’re Home”--> Corellian Standoff--Han: “Same thing I always do—talk my way out of it…. Yes I do, every time!”/ “Han Solo, you’re a dead man.”

    • Rathtar Mayhem--> Supreme Leader—Bala-Tik: “Inform the First Order that Han Solo has the droid they want…”/Snoke informs Kylo Ren that Han Solo has the droid they want

    • Meeting Maz --> Discussions of Destinies—Kylo: “I will finish what you started”/ Maz tells Han to finish what he started (more or less ;) )

    • Discussions of Destinies--> Visions in the Force—Finn leaves/In Rey’s vision her family leaves

    • Starkiller --> First Order Invasion---Finn: “Where’s Rey?”/cut to Rey running through the forest

    • Resistance to the Rescue --> Kylo Finds Rey—Finn: “That’s one h3ll of a pilot”/cut to Rey (in the forest)

    • Resistance Base --> Rey Imprisoned—Leia (Resistance leader): “There’s still Light in him, I know it.”/Kylo about the Resistance: “Do you mean the murderers, traitors, and thieves you call friends?”

    • Starkiller Landing --> Base Infiltration—Kylo: “She’s going to try to steal a ship to esc— …Han Solo.”/cut to Han Solo and co. running across the snow of SKB

    • Rejoining Rey --> Into the Oscillator—C3PO: “It would take a miracle to save us now.”/cut to Han Solo, shooting a Stormtrooper

    • Father and Son --> Dark Forest—“Admiral, the weapon [Starkiller] will fire in two minutes”/The sound of Kylo firing up his lightsaber

    • Forest Duel --> Cataclysm—Kylo Ren is defeated by Rey/Starkiller base is destroyed by the Resistance

    • Made Whole --> Finding the Master—3PO to R2: “Oh, my dear friend, how I’ve missed you.”/Rey to Finn: “We’ll see each other again, I believe that. Thank you, my friend.”

      And the final words of the movie: “May the Force be with you.” :)

    tl;dr summary: Some transitions between scenes/chapters are meaningful, so pay attention to them. ;)
     
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    this one struck me really late in my viewings ~ yeah! Finn's abandonment triggers her recollection/the call.

    this is really interesting because it's people involved in engagements in which they don't realize yet who they're talking about/to ~ yeah!

    this is one my favorites!!!
     
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    Aw, bless your heart for reading my wall of text. ;) One of my favorite transitions isn't a chapter change, although it is a scene change: After "If you see our son bring him home," it cuts to Kylo Ren stomping through Starkiller base and then talking to the Stormtrooper about how dangerous Rey will become. (Ha! He doesn't know the half of how dangerous she'll be to him, poor unsuspecting guy--and not just with that lightsaber. ;) )
     
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    the other thing that strikes me about this transition given recent discussions we've had is that he's so oblivious to his own "rescue".
    he sees Rey as a threat and the approach of his father as an even bigger threat. he probably can't even conceive of his father trying to reach out to him.
    and even worse: the fact that he does know they are coming to rescue Rey is probably a subconscious kick to the groin.
     
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    One of the scenes that I noticed last night that I never really paid much attention to is on Takodana when Han Solo is defending himself and he's aiming at the storm troopers outside and he hits some but then he aims his blaster away and shoots a trooper blindly and then turns around as if he's surprised .
     
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    I guess what impact Han's purpose there would have on Kylo depends how much he is aware of his need to be rescued. It seems to me that it almost certainly never entered his conscious mind that he's not exactly where he should be--so why would anyone need to come after him? He probably doesn't allow his thoughts to stray back to what he longs for deep down--which is why (to my mind) he is so taken off guard emotionally when Han invites him to come home. *takes break to find tissues ;)* But, as you say, he does know that Rey and Han have formed a relationship because of reading her thoughts, and I'm sure he leaped to the conclusion Han was on SKB to find his fellow Resistance member and friend.
     
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    you might need to pass those tissues.

    he must have wanted it desperately at some point early in his life, but yeah, probably gave up a long time ago.
    so yeah, that's exactly why he falls apart on the bridge.
    after all these years, there's his father asking him to come home, but he thinks it's too late.
    i hate this movie ~ hahaha
     
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    I know, right? That's why I'm half afraid to read the novelization (which I do have now...just haven't started yet)...
     
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    Noticed recently, as SKB is coming apart and Chewie/Rey/Finn are boarding the Millenium Falcon to make a quick exit: Rey hesitates and looks back.

    Make of that what you will. ;) :D
     
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    I have a bunch of observations and questions that I didn't before. Some of them are probably "much ado about nothing", others are significant. Here they are in order:

    REPUBLIC/RESISTANCE SPIES
    Why does Poe think that Finn is resistance when he initially tells him of the "rescue". Does the Resistance have spies in the First Order? It would seem like they don't because they didn't have any intel on a planet size base/killing machine

    ESCAPE IGNORANCE
    Kylo Ren asks General Hux if it was the Resistance Fighter that was responsible for the escape... why didn't he know it was Poe Dameron? Can't he sense it?

    HAN SOLO MAYBE A FORCE USER?
    Why does Han know immediately that Finn isn't in the Resistance? When Rey introduces Finn as a Resistance member, Han sees through it immediately. I thought we were led to believe that Han has been far removed from Leia, doing his Cargo Running thing. Is this just wisdom? Also, two Force Sensitive Creatures sensed Han through the Force, Maz at the Cantina (she knows he's there while her back is still turned) and Kylo when he arrived at SK Base. Why is that? Han also appears to use precognition in firing on one of the Storm Troopers on Jakku.

    SOLO MAKING FACES
    Han looks at Rey weird several times, once when she bypasses the compressor, another when she remarked on the lushness of Takadona, why?

    MAZ AND EYES
    "If you live long enough you see the same eyes in different people, I'm looking at the eyes of a man who wants to run." Who else did she see (that presumably we have seen also) who wanted to run? And why does Maz seem almost amused by Finn's dire predictions about the FO? (Her response to Finn's talk about the FO, is similar to Morpheus asking Neo if he thought he was breathing real air in the Matrix - that's the best reference I can think of)

    X-WINGS ONLY
    It was an all X-Wing attack on SK Base, no A or B wings, and at the end, only 7 X-Wings made it back
     
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    i think he's deliberately pushing Hux's buttons. of course it's the Resistance Fighter, who else would it be? unless they have other prisoners?

    one of the deleted scenes answers the first question: Han recognizes Finn's shoes.
    Maz and Ren both have a particular connection to Han (Maz as a long-time colleague/confidant and Ren as his son). doesn't seem that surprising?
    as for the precognition, i think it's just for funsies.

    one possibility is Han?
     
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