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Disagreement post rating needs change

Discussion in 'Forum Feedback (The Cantina)' started by McDiarmid, Jul 27, 2017.

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Different opinion and disagreement with someone's opinion are negative things?

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  1. Yes.

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  1. McDiarmid

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    Thanks FN 3263827.

    Disagree is formally neutral rating but in pratice it is negative,as it subtracts from pool of positive points,as well as it changes structure of personal rating.
    Simply,forumite that doesn't hurt anyone's feelings,dont troll,do not offend but in fact ignites debate and mobilises others to think and counter with different thoughts ,is not rewarded at all.In fact one is discouraged to engage in manly open debate in order to get only"greens".
     
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    If I disagree with you I'll press the disagree button. I don't see that as negative. If you do, then that's your problem not the forum's.
     
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    Mind you, the ratings themselves are already completed from a design standpoint. We just need to implement them to the site's structure itself, and I'm not sure who has access to do that outside of Viral himself.
     
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    Soooo....would you say your boss is a bribable sort of chap?
     
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    I actually agree with OP.

    Look at the "neutral" options other than "Disagree":
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    Those don't really reflect neutral things- they're both clearly negative. The only thing "neutral" about these ratings is that they fill up a yellow bar rather than a red one, if that's even really an argument. And considering how the "neutral" options arguably reflect negative behavior, I think that the neutral bar conveys one's reputation just about as well as the red one. If I saw a user with a larger yellow bar than a green one, I'd pretty well assume that they've been rather aggressive on these pages, not that they've been "neutral"...

    I think the opportunity to "disagree" is given effectively in the ability to disagree in comments, of course, but it might be nice to also have a disagree rating that wouldn't negatively (or "neutrally", in only name) effect that user's reputation. After all, we're so often encouraged to address the post, not the poster- yet the current rating system seems to send the exact opposite message.
     
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    Change the bar collors to...blue...purple...red....and darksaber!!!!
     
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    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Debate
    The definition of debate contains disagreements, it is about how you express those. It is actually a fair share if you can like things you can also disagree with things in word or nonverbal, with a rating. What really doesn't help is an environment like for example Facebook, just having likes over a long period didn't really help to turn out pretty vile. There is no safe space in debate in any media and those who want cause trouble will find a way.
     
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    I think if you disagree, you either like the points you agree with, or make a case as to why you disagree. If everyone who disagreed with me hit the disagree button, I'd be in bad shape.
     
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    But no one has disagreed with you! :cool:
     
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    Im gonna do that...just you wait! :p
     
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    I have to disagree.
     
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    Look at your ratings on your profile. You have received zero "disagree" points.
     
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    Definitely. We're not all here to be "Yes Men" for each other, and debates happen pretty frequently. I'd say that most people would have a roughly even split between Green and Yellow if the "Disagree" button was used in earnest.

    Not really sure why it exists then, especially since if one wants to use it when particularly vehemently opposed to a post the "Dislike" bar might be more accurate and appealing (though again, not really advocating that either)
     
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    Well if there was no disagree people would probably use dislike and that IS a red point.
     
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    Thats my point people still disagree with me, but they don't use the button, because they aren't jerks. Instead they state their case.
     
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    So I'm a jerk if I click disagree? I disagree. There's your first Dooku.
     
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    Fair enough.
     
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    Dooku' rating is s pathy to the Dark side.We all know that.
    In the film and in this Forum to.
    It symbolizes negative attitude, and negative spirit of debate.
    How many times I got protests and "retaliation" because I given to someone Disagree Dooku.
    Let us not pretend we are something else,but humans,and we are all same under the skin.
    Its negative rating by percerption and by end results.

    I think Ben Kenobi should be disagree rating icon(disagreeing at its best means resonable questioning and argumenting,after someone's opinion has been considerred with respect) and it should be without any rating,not neutral,just a note Icon(Ben Kenobi was humble in its greatness).
     
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    Well you clearly Disagree with me. You're on your way to dark side too Mr. McDiarmid.
     
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    Not if there was a Disagree button that was truly neutral (as in, did not affect user rating, and wasn't just simply labeled neutral).
     
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