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OFFICIAL NEWS Disney didn’t Use George Lucas’ Ideas for The Force Awakens.

Discussion in 'Star Wars: The Force Awakens' started by Viral Hide, Jan 20, 2015.

  1. AllHailVader

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    As I suspected, Lucas should have been consulted.

    He would never have had a non-force user fight with a lightsaber

    Woould have made the villain more threatening

    A story more original than an episode 4 rehash
     
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    Agreed on everything you said 1million percent. Disappointed with a few things, and they need to send that snoke thing back to the Hobbits set.
     
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    At least George would have come up with some new ideas JJ did what he always does Ape better directors but I am sure that is what Disney wanted play it safe and use the formula everyone loves
     
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    As much as I wanted to see Lucas ideas I still think the end product would not have been received as well as TFA. Lucas said he wanted the next generation to feature children and teenagers. This, in itself, isn't a good idea.
     
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    Ah take that idea and pull a Game of thrones just age the characters up 5-10 years...problem solved moved on.
     
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    http://www.wga.org/content/default.aspx?id=6130

    http://www.wga.org/content/default.aspx?id=6130

    Directors Guild of America - Star Wars: The Force Awakens DGA Q&A with J.J. Abrams & Lawrence Kasdan



     
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    “It just felt like every time Luke came in and entered the movie, he just took it over,” Arndt said. “Suddenly you didn’t care about your main character anymore because, ‘Oh f–k, Luke Skywalker’s here. I want to see what he’s going to do.’”

    Umm.... Yeah. Hello? That's kind of what everyone wanted, other than you, Disney and toy company execs, who pocketed another couple mill by destroying Luke Skywalker and packaging Rey: A New Hope part 2 (that's what I'm gonna call her from now on).
    --- Double Post Merged, Dec 23, 2015, Original Post Date: Dec 23, 2015 ---
    What do you disagree with @Rieekan?
     
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    Stupid jerks, makin' movies everyone loves. Where do they get off?!
     
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    Probably with your accusation that Luke's absence in the movie is to sell more action figures or that Rey is a character clone of Luke...valid things to disagree with.
     
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    I don't think Luke was destroyed I seen him. I can understand their reasoning. You can't really build a new generation if they are constantly overshadowed by the previous cast. You lose that introduction and the care that is developed about the new characters which will be needed in VII and IX
     
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    That's why I asked him.... Is this site a member's only club? I think it's obvious Rey is A New Hope part 2. The motivation for doing so seems logical: reboot for a new generation. Maybe I could've said that in a less agitated way. But marketing and sales are definitely part of any reboot.
     
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    Yeah marketing is part of Star Wars since 77 but I don't think it is about playing favorites. The way they portrayed Luke supports his character in a way Hamill always asked for. It was always about the new generation, ANH 2 would have been Luke goes on the same adventure again. But I disagreed on the part what "everybody wants" I don't know what everybody wants, but I don't see torches/lightsabers and pitchforks on the streets, they must have done something right there. And a disagree is neutral, pretty far away from a negative rating.
     
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    Okay. I just wanted to know what you were disagreeing with.

    I've read other people say that this is what Hamill wanted for Luke. But all I've ever read is that he thought Luke would become like Obi-Wan. But.... Obi-Wan lived in isolation with a plan, for either him or Yoda to train Luke. They couldn't start a new order because of the empire's military presence, or get close enough to either sith to take them out.

    Luke living in isolation, allowing millions of innocent people to be slaughtered, content to let the Jedi order die with him fundamentally changes his character. And it's that change that allows for Rey (A New Hope part 2) to become more important than Luke.

    I think people love Star Wars so much that they're just accepting this. I gave the film an A-, but the story an F. My love for the franchise will never be what it was before. And I'm upset about that. You don't have to respond. I don't want to get into a long thing. I'm new and the disagree rating just threw me off. Sorry.
     
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    No worries all good, I can deal with different opinions, which is is kinda interesting because on an emotional level you might be right but there is always a bu
    Well he even was the first one to use the cameo thing and at one Lucas offerd him to write him out of the story, this story is so much relying on Luke that you can't do it.
    Actually good news to all Luke fans.
    That wasn't a plan they just had hope, they even argued if he was ready.
    Not changing him, but he didn't know till the First Order killed billions, he only knew that he had a fowl apple in his class and that destroyed his own family(Luke Han) he maybe didn't even know about a superweapon, that was more on the Hux plan side, Kylo had other motives.
     
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    Well, Luke hasn't has the chance to explain anything yet. So let's not judge him (or the people who are writing him) too harshly.

    Things Ben Kenobi did:
    • Lived in isolation
    • "Allowed" Alderaan to be destoryed / the general cruelty of the Empire to proceed
    • "Let" the Jedi Order die after Order 66
     
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    Same with Yoda
     
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    Yeah I don't think Luke knew that Rey was alive...and I dont' think he knew that Starkiller exhisted. Had he known, he would've gotten involved (I think). He was heartbroken and exiled. Much like Yoda. Yoda didn't do anything to prevent the destruction of Alderaan...but that doesn't really mean anything to anyone. As soon as obiwan found out, he jumped into action. He was on his way to help, when it was blown up. I believe luke will now jump into the action...because...yes, there is a new Hope...dang it!.
     
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    Quote compilation : About George Lucas
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    I'd like to throw in another million percent.
     
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