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SPECULATION Do Rey's Parents Matter?

Discussion in 'Star Wars: The Rise of Skywalker' started by DailyPlunge, Apr 7, 2018.

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Do Rey's Parents Matter?

  1. No - Kylo Ren and the new Jedi Order are Rey's priorty

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  2. Yes - The key to Rey's future is in her past

    41 vote(s)
    44.6%
  1. The Futurition

    The Futurition Rebel General

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    I understand where you're coming from, I was there. Until I realized it was starring me in the face this whole time and I didn't see it.

    But Luke, he would of known, I told myself.

    Then 2 things came up, ( before knowing he was on Jakku and everything else)

    Rey's line from the Last Jedi.

    ''But I didn't see you.
    Nothing from you.
    You closed yourself
    off from the Force.
    Of course you have.''


    and of course, it brought me to this from Daisy Ridley.

    ''I thought a lot was answered in ‘The Force Awakens’. Then after the screening I went for a drink with my agent and everyone, and we were chatting away and I realized that oh, in their minds it’s not answered at all!''

    Maz in TFA:

    “Dear child, I see it in your eyes......You already know the truth … Whoever you were waiting for on Jakku, they’re never coming back. But there’s someone who still can..

    Rey: ''Luke.”

    Still can-Coming back.

    Then Daisy again a few months before VIII came out:

    “I’d love to see the look on people’s faces,” she said. “But with answers come more questions, and there’s definitely going to be enough to keep people going for another two years!”

    I started to fully realize that, when they figured no one figured, they decided to use that as one more elemental surprise to use. I mean look, when i decided to look into it, I decided to look into it.

    I could go on. Because there is so much more to the Rey is a Skywalker reveal.

    So yeah, I get you.



     
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  2. darthracer777

    darthracer777 Rebel Trooper

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    I can see both sides on this. From my perspective, I wish (sigh) that Rey had been Luke's daughter. If I remember correctly, decades ago, Lucas stated that Luke's offspring would be a daughter. I guess I'm just sentimental on this subject. It won't keep me from enjoying IX, but it'll always be a 'what if' for me.
     
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    Xeven Rebel Official

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    Just realized the crystal stayed with Rey. It’s the only Force sensitive part if the Saber.
     
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    Yep it matters what excuse they have for dumping her on Jakku. Let it rip at them Rey, when given the chance.
     
  5. The Futurition

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    On Rey's parentage:

    That’s what Kylo sees and that’s what he tells her and I think he’s not lying in that moment. That’s what he saw and she seems to believe it when she hears it. I don’t want to … I’m not writing the next film, we’ll see how they handle it going forward, and as we all know in these movies, there’s always a certain point of view that’s involved. But, for me, I’ll tell you that was the … I can understand why that answer doesn’t feel good. It’s not supposed to feel good. It’s supposed to be the hardest thing she could possibly hear in that moment.”

    They've told us nothing, but they're not lying to us. ''From a certain point of view''

    So yeah, I truly want to see the dead in a pauper's grave on Jakku explain this to Rey.

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  6. Jedi MD

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    I know from many of your other posts that you are dead certain that Rey is going to turn out to be from th Skywalker line in someway. While I disagree with this opinion I respect your zeal. I only hope that if Rey does turn out to be from an insignificant lineage that you are not too upset. I think that some of the reasons the ST has had a number of detractors is that people have gotten so caught up in there ideas or wants that when the movies don’t represent those views they become so disappointed they can no longer enjoy SW anymore. I hope that does not happen with you. While I feel Rey will remain from a common/unimportant lineage, I am not nearly as certain of it as you are of the contrary (this will be elaborated on below)

    As for Rian’s quotes, Rian made it pretty clear in the lead up to TLJ that when he started the process of writing the script he sat down and came up with the toughest scenario each character could face. The story was built from that. In Finn’s case that was having to stand up to the group he fled from and finally having to choose to fight for a cause rather than flee. For Poe it was having to learn that winning at all costs is not the way and that there is more to being a leader than just charging into every situation. For Rey it was coming to grips with the fact that her family she came from was not a loving, caring family that she made it out to be in her mind for all those years she grew up on her own as well as dealing with the hero/mentor/father figure she was hoping to find in Luke wasn’t the same man he once was. The in that moment quote by Rian was him stating that at that time in the movie Rey’s toughest thing to deal with was that her parents were not important and she didn’t come from a loving family like we would like to come from.

    Rian did not plan out some ruse so that IX would set up some big reveal. It appears you left out part of the quote where Rian basically says that in his mind Rey’s parentage is as he wrote it but he can’t say for certain that she is not from a special lineage because he is not writing IX thus his ideas could be changed. This change can happen because of the “certain point of view” angle that has been created in SW. this is why although I believe Rey is not from a special lineage, I’m not certain about it. JJ can change it in IX if he chooses. Will he? None of us knows and that is what Rian is getting at.

    As far as the screen shots of Rey’ vision go. They are not hard evidence of anything. One could view those visions as being very literal. What we see is exactly what happened. Rey was physically left with Unkar Plutt as her parents flew off in a fancy ship. However, this could also be the scenario that Rey built up in her mind to give her hope that they one day might come back for her when in reality her worthless parents abandoned her because they just didn’t care and in the process left her to fend for herself under the oppressive rule of Unkar just to survive.

    As of now we would have to say that from what we know Rey is special because of who she is and not because of where she comes from. This can be changed in IX but we can’t say for certain that they will. At this point I don’t think they will. It will be fun to see what happens in 11 months
     
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    I think the movie will go further down the road of "oh no your parents don't matter. (kill the past) create your own little identity". It's the political beat of today in a broader sense, and unfortunately the new SW movies are VERY political (Prequels and OT were too but in a different way)
     
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    Thanks, and no, will not be disappointed at all. I love SW and highly enjoyed the films, less the PT but whatever. It just wasn't making any sense to me. I work in R&D so when I look into something, I do it all the way, or not at all.

    I truly understand that most believe we've past the point of no return, can't fathom the idea of JJ retconning etc.. But what if this was layed out from the beginning?

    Now they've set up to surprise us, part of the twists and surprises of the saga, but they also know the internet is very smart. There is a reason they have their digital marketing internet damage control group on every board from reddit to here. How exactly do they have their OMG moment(s)? Snoke's death? nice but leaves questions. Luke's death? Holdo? Leia's use of the force? Luke's force projection? Forcetime? all cool, but with one movie left, there has got to be more surprises in store, and probably the biggest ones.

    The biggest questions are 2 in this trilogy? Who is Rey? (which has been on screen for 2 films) and what will happen with Ben Solo?

    It's been said in the past that Rian did his own thing, that the LFSG did nothing the help craft his story, but none of that is true.

    Rian Johnson:

    ''..It's also not like there's a white board with the whole story arc laid out. Much to my surprise, it was, "Here's a script for Episode VII, and you can watch some dailies, because they were shooting Episode VII at the time, and let's talk about where this is going next."

    ....We were always carrying the characters forward from the first movie, and we're starting off from the events of the first movie, and there's a trajectory to it so it made sense they would go in this direction next''

    ''I actually moved up to San Francisco so I could meet a couple times a week with the folks at Lucasfilm. They call it their Story Group, with [SVP of Development] Kiri Hart and a bunch of folks. I would go in and throw everything I was thinking of up on the whiteboard and we would talk about it.

    ''..They are also so smart and know this world so well, so when they give you the permission of, "Oh, that sounds really interesting" to try some weird stuff, that was incredibly valuable''

    So Ok, all that seems pretty normal, and the way it should be. So no, the script they wanted him to write was not laid out for him, so hence why it leaked that JJ's treatment for VIII was thrown out by RJ, but the trajectory has been laid out. So, here is point A and there is point Z. You can fill in the blanks within context.

    So the trajectory so far has been Who is Rey? and what will happen to Ben Solo, will there be a Reylo?, will he be redeemed? will he die? etc etc...

    Daisy Ridley herself said before VIII was out that with more reveals, come even more questions and that people will have enough to debate for 2 years!

    Which is where were at, and SWNN thanks them for that! lol.

    So do I believe her parentage has been answered? no, not in the least. Everything was thought about. So if people are afraid of retcon, then they should have been equally as surprised with RJ's reveal that Rey is no one and her parents were alcoholics that are dead on Jakku. When you know official canon before VIII came out show's this.


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    There are many things that don't yet make much sense, and I truly believe we will have the 'classified' answers in IX.

    Makes for much better story telling in this day and age, and JJ's task is to bring all 3 films together to complete their trajectory and by way side redeem RJ's divisive film.
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    I have to disagree a little bit here. Solo is all about who he is and where he comes from.

    “Take that ridiculous thing off. Yes, there it is. You have too much of your father’s heart in you, young Solo.

    From the TFA novelization for Rey in her vision:

    That voice. “Stay here. I’ll come back for you.” She whirled, glazed eyes desperately scanning the dark gaps between the slender trees, trying to penetrate the darkness. “Where are you?” She started running toward the voice. “I’ll come back, sweetheart. I promise.” “I’m here! Right here! Where are you?” No response.

    From TLJ novelization you also can see that Ben Solo could not kill his mother because he felt she was worried for him, and that his wings torpedo caught him by surprise and he would of stopped it had he known in time.

    Family is a huge part of this Skywalker saga.
     
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