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Does anyone else feel they should have started the new trilogy..

Discussion in 'Star Wars: The Force Awakens' started by PartyOnDarth, Dec 18, 2015.

  1. Darth Marcus

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    Good idea, but it would've been risky. They played it safe, did something that will pay, nothing original really.
     
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    No, it's perfect how they started it. This is after Kylo's fall yet still recent enough where he is still developing as a villain and less disciplined. If we would have seen him before his fall he would've been too much like Anakin. If we would have seen him 20-30 years after his fall he would've seemed too much like Vader. This is perfect.
     
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    Could have been better, but I see a resemblance between your idea and the PT "too young" Anakin Skywalker debacle.
    The ST should have been made in the late 80's or early 90's as a direct successor of ROTJ.
     
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    Unless they're playing us and this is the prequel trilogy to a bad Rey in episode 10 11 and 12, now that would be a twist
     
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    i agree @Darth Lindb

    the other elephant in the room is the age of the OT characters... 30 years on seemed an extremely logical place to start.
     
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    The big reason why I love the OT more then the PT is I like Luke's journey more then Anakin's journey.

    No offense, I don't want 3 movies again focusing on how someone went bad as the ST should focus on Rey, and Kylo's story (while still important) should be secondary.

    I'm just not a fan of too much backstory on any character as it usually disappoints. The story should move forward as it keeps it suspenseful and more interesting.
     
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    I really liked seeing Anakin's transition to the Dark Side in the prequels, and I'd love to see that with Ben (but I guess it's a little too late considering the movie's already out). That being said, the prequels would have been a lot less interesting if they were released first. What makes the prequels interesting in any way whatsoever is that they lead up to something much bigger. The prequels were, sort of, filler material. (Don't hurt me, I am a prequel lover). :D

    So, I can understand why the story is being told this way. It would be a lot less interesting if the story were simply laid out without any room for speculation. I mean, head-scratchers are what keep me involved in the first place. If I knew right off the bat all the how's and why's of TFA I wouldn't have spent (probably too much) time wracking my brain and reading the whole internet trying to discover Rey's lineage. :D

    If episodes VIII and IX don't fill in the gaps, I'm sure we'll have plenty of comic book material to read in the not-too-distant future. *crosses fingers*
     
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    I rather have that 30 year period a bit mysterious, because such lacunae help the story of TFA and its sequels. There is room for reveals and exposition about what happened. I'm glad we have the opportunity to recreate and imagine some of that story gap ourselves. The Clone Wars sounded much more stronger when Obi Wan told about them, when we actually saw the clone wars it lost some of its magic. Just like Anakin's fall is much stronger storywise when you don't exactly know how it happened because not-knowing makes it harder and thus also much more interesting to distinguish which of Luke's choices might lead him to the dark or light.

    Just as with Kylo, Rey, Finn and Luke, I'd rather not see what exactly happened in that thirty years gap. Rey and Finn are thrown into a mysterious world where much has changed in the 30 years we had last seen it. They discover what that world has become just like we as an audience do.
     
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    I personally like that they started where it is. It opens up room for a new canon EU AND likely anthology films (more than one) ABOUT those things that we want to see and have questions about. Taking Vader for example in ANH; Everyone wondered who he was and what his back-story consisted of.

    After the reveal in Empire, EVERYONE lost their mind wanting to know how it happened, which made way for the eventual PT which was necessary. This course with the ST will make way for the stories about Luke, Rey, and Ben...we'll see it, and I think it was smart. :)
     
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    I think no for several reasons. Some are a little more selfish than others.
    A. I love 7 to much to want it to change.
    B. We don't know whats gonna happen in 8
    C. Sounds like an Anakin story all over again and this trilogy doesn't need that. Maybe a good book or comic though I hope a book since I don't read the comics.
     
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    This is EXACTLY the same way I think about it!

    Another Prequels-kind of trilogy? No thank you!
     
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    Not to mention - they'd receive the same complaints and worse about how they were re-doing the prequels because they hate them yadda yadda yadda blah blah
     
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    And having Ben be a whinny crybaby who wants to be a Vader clone isn't dry and sad?
     
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    I'm glad they started I new trilogy, we needed to see what the characters where up to on the big screen instead of just reading about it.
     
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    This sounds like Red Letter Media’s two cents. Anyway, no thanks, we already saw an emo Skywalker fall to the Dark Side. I’d prefer not to have a retread of that storyline. Interesting thought though.
     
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    Starting the trilogy with Ben and Luke is a neat idea. However, I feel like most of the mysteries we are about to learn in VIII and IX will address the manipulation of Ben from Snoke and Luke's ultimate failure to turn Ben back to the light side. Revealing this in VII may be a bit premature and leaves fewer surprises for later films. Also, watching Ben deterioarate into Kylo before our eyes retreads much of the themes of the prequel trilogy. Lucas has often said int he past that while the OT is about rising up to the challenge and being heroes, the PT was about the sins of man, more specifically, about temptation, corruption, disillusionment, and one's ultimate fall from grace. It will be interesting to see what angle the ST will take. My gut feeling is that VII-IX will also be about heroes doing heroic things (as a great deal of TFA shares themes and motifs from the OT thus far.)

    A personal favorite theory of mine is that Kylo Ren will hit rock bottom emotionally and then rise to the occasion by becoming the biggest hero everyone has ever seen in the galaxy, (thus starting out with PT themes but progressing to OT themes over time.) The only problem with my theory is that Kylo Ren did, in fact, murder everyone's favorite childhood hero, Han Solo, and it will take a lot of convincing to make us feel favorably towards the guy at this point...
     
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    I'm glad they did, not everything has to be solely for reading purposes.
     
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    I see where OP is coming from, but I also kind of enjoy that big hole of not much info between VI and VII. I like filling in the blanks with my own imagination, as I did with the OT. Then they began to fill every blank.

    I’d rather take out Starkiller Base and refocus the movie more toward the main narrative arc - the search for Luke Skywalker.
     
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    In medias res is always stronger. The way The Force Awakens starts is genious. We haven't seen this world in 30 years so it is only logical they would recreate that disorientation in the audience. That's why you identify with Finn and Rey. They are us, they are just as disoriented as we are. We discover what happened in those 30 years through their questions.
     
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    Han, Luke, Leia, Anakin’s stories were told and complete...Without question they should have used another era if they were going to continue the saga.
     
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