Does Rey being 'sold for drinking money' make sense...?

Let's not change the subject. We were discussing Rey's story. Her not being blood relation to an established character is original.

I agree with this whole heatedly. Ultimately this trilogy suffers from the decisions made by JJ from the beginning. Lucasfilm says there's no outline for these films. If that's true it seems crazy to me. I understand they don't want to stifle creativity, but there needs to be some kind of outline. JJ is a great story creator, but he doesn't strike me as a guy to tell an entire story.

I differ however on how jarring the differences are between RJ and JJ. Yes, there was a build up about Rey's parents and it comes to an apex in this film. It wasn't disregarded.

 

I think I did want to know more about

the guy that made a perfect shot down the exhaust vent, without help from computers.
Why a dead old guy could talk to him.

the twist in ESB wasn't even written yet when ANH was made.

my opinion is Kylo was lying to her, to turn her. But we won't know until IX

 

So the ship flying away from Jakku in The Force Awakens was what?

Since I never said anything about Skywalkers, I don't know why you would include it in this comment.

 

Why does everyone take Kylo to be literal?
He could be honest and literal or lying and metaphorical - or any combination of those really.

 

You're assuming the ship is leaving Jakku. It could be going anywhere.

Because Rian Johnson has explained the decision to make Rey random.

 

But that doesn't have to mean that they literally sold her for drinking money or are literally buried on Jakku - just that they were nobodies and of a callous nature (if he isn't being literal).
I think there is quite some chance for him to "spice it up" to push Rey.

 

Rian Johnson never said his position is that Rey's parents are 2 alcocholic junk dealers , the question has been adressed by Snoke and Kylo, Snoke and Kylo in the film.

I apologize I watched film by now 4 times and except dark side story, apprently accepted by Rey as a possibility, (because this does not influence her decision to stay on Light ,showing her strenght) , there is no any proof anything said by decieving Dark siders is legitimate.

Strengely, Luke Skaywalker absolutely does not have concerns who are her parents.

Ep IX will be very interesting considering Rey's true background. The story is deliberaty left unresolved.(for more than one logical reason).

2 Drunkards will not be Canon at the end ,In strongly believe in this.

 

I doubt this topic is revisited again. According to RJ, Kylo is simply telling Rey the truth he sees from her mind. Maybe he's exaggerating a bit, but her parents don't sound like great people. This story is about going forward now for Rey. Going back doesn't really add much to the story.

 

I don't even know why you're trying to argue. Its a simple thing to grasp, especially if you look at nearly every story in existence. You explain your main character. Accepting this doesn't mean you have to hate the movie.

 

I'll explain why since you seem to be confused.
You said:

I countered your claim very reasonably with an example of Luke/Rey:

There's no detailed explanation of why Luke can do the things he can do before he's trained. Rey is very similar. Does that explain "why" to you?

 

Rey's parents were green milk addicts who were buying that milk from Luke. Rey was conceived during their deepest addiction phase so she was basically conceived from the green milk. And with that milk originating from a place so strong with the force, she become strong with the force herself.

As the green milk demand kept increasing, Luke was unable to keep up with the supply so he started making use of Han's smuggling skills to deliver more milk to his customers (it must be said that the green milk was banned in the whole galaxy so its distribution was illegal). But that came at a cost - the price went up like crazy. That was when Rey's parents decided to sell her in order to obtain more money for the milk. Because she was green milk addict herself as well and after she was sold to Unkar she was cut off from the green milk she had to get through some very nasty withdrawal syndrome phase. She succeeded, but the cost is that she doesn't remember much from the time prior to when she managed to clean herself out.

Still the demand for the milk was very strong and kept increasing until Luke was even unable to source enough green milk. Luke was really enthusiastic about his green milk business and took it as his personal failure that he wasn't able to satisfy all his customers and in the end decided to cut himself off everything and left the whole galaxy behind. And Rey's parents didn't survive the withdrawal syndrome and died at Jakku soon after.

 

Some would call it lazy writing if Rey happened to be the child of Obi Wan, or some other character we know.
I do agree Rey's powers do seem a little unearned though

 

She’s a no one. Her parents were scum. They settled their debts by leaving her with Plutt because she could be of use to him and for all intent and purposes had no means of leaving. She was cheap labour. He didn’t even bother housing her. She may have said she wasn’t a slave but she was. She had to work for Plutt to survive. She only got food from him.

I’m struggling to see the issue here.

 

So Rey was treated like garbage off-screen by her parents. But everyone she meets on-screen likes her and shows great interest in her (including the villains). Luke is basically the only one who doesn't show huge interest in her at the very first moment - although he eventually does so rather quickly.

Am I supposed to feel remorse for this character for something that's not shown, nor explained in the actual movies?

 

Pretty much the same as in real life then in my experience

 

It's not clear what your point is here with the off-screen/on-screen stuff. Rey certainly wasn't living the good life on Jakku and Unkar Plutt (who was on screen) doesn't seem to like her.

 

Or "light siders" either, the Sith and the Jedi are similar in almost every way...

 

I guess this is the argument people made after Empire Strikes Back when Vader told Luke the truth.

 

She seemed to be doing well for herself, and she was fully capable of leaving Jakku: The reason why she stayed behind was because of her one and only flaw: Her longing for belonging to family. People in other threads have tried to point out that Rey's flaw is that she's struggling with being accepted and wanted - something which I find funny since everyone she meets in the movie likes her. She is welcomed to the Resistance with open arms. That's my issue: If her flaw is struggling with being accepted and wanted, why is she being accepted and wanted by everyone in the film? Is she afraid of intimacy? (No, her multiple hugs of Finn says otherwise).

Therefore we are simply told that Rey was abandoned, and therefore we should feel remorse.

 

Apparently you're confused. Luke is a pilot. His natural force affinity enhances this talent. You never saw Luke beating Vader 5 hours after learning about the force. You never saw Luke floating boulders with ease. Luke, like any competently written hero, had to earn his power. Now I'm done with this idiotic exchange.