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Does Rogue One Improve the PREquels?

Discussion in 'Rogue One' started by RoyleRancor, Dec 19, 2016.

  1. Obi juan kenobi

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    I think Rogue one came in and did a good job of filling the story, linking the prequels to the OT. This story should never have been part of the prequel trilogy, as the main films deal with the Skywalkers....But I can see that Rogue one has probably devalued peoples opinions on the PT even more so, as this provided the grit and battles that we all expected the 'Clone Wars' to bring.

    Something that in my opinion has improved the prequels (much like R1 improved ANH in some respects), is the Catalyst novel written for R1. This ties in the prequels to R1 very very nicely. Im 2/3 of the way through and I now have a clearer understanding of the dynamics of the Clone Wars and the way the Empire went about taking control, along with the back story to the death star construction.

    The first part of Catalyst takes part between AotC and RotS, and then later after RotS. There is quite a lot of things that would have been nice to see in the films in terms of explanations, but the existence of TPM meant that Lucas had to fit a lot in to the next two. A lot of it is there, but just brushed over. For example, I didn't like the Geonosians and Separatist stuff at first, but now it has been fleshed out in this novel, I understand and respect them now.

    Just saw R1 for the second time btw, and it is even better! so that makes it 11/10 now :p
     
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    Probably for the best,
    What an insulting load of old codswallop. I think the thing I hate most about the PT, even more than the movies themselves, is the increasingly prevalent BS of the fans of those movies.
     
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  3. Darth Nole

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    If possible, Rogue One made the prequels worse, even without a John Williams score. I will never, ever be a PT fan. PERIOD.
     
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    I liked how RO was able to connect the prequels to the OT. I really wasn't a fan of the prequels at first, but over the years I have begun to enjoy them for what they are.
    RO shows us how good a prequel can be if done correctly from a fresh perspective. Lucas pretty much mailed it in when he made the prequels, and got lazy and just wanted closure on his saga.
    They had the potential for being great, like we all hoped, but in the end fell on disappointed eyes. Mostly.
     
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    The PT WAS GOOD. PERIOD. Not great but good.

    OT was the better Saga. But the PT had the best film, ROTS.

    OT had the better cast. But the PT had the best actor, Ian McDirmid. (Him in ROTJ was brief).
     
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    How anyone could ever claim that ROTS>ESB is beyone me. I respect opinions though.
     
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    Easy. It was darker. And I respect your love 4 TESB.
     
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    Yup ROTS was more personal in the sense of what was at stake and sold it successfully even though we knew the end result already.
     
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    Why do prequel fans hate the new Star Wars movies?
     
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    Don't generalize. I simply strongly dislike it. Also a lot depends on how many of us view this movie years from now with theses lingering questions............

    A. Rey a Skywalker or not.

    B. Really, just who the fark is Snoke?

    And.

    C. Kylo lives or dies.
     
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    Not all of them do. I think it's a vocal minority.
    But they all seem to have the same complaints.
    It's salt.
    Some people took it personal when TFA was received so much better than any of the PT was. It kind of highlighted issues in the PT and they felt it was a slight.
     
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    Some Star Wars fans like to complain a lot. Best fan community in the world.
     
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    For me, personally, Rogue One didn't improve the prequels but the Saga as the whole by connecting the prequels and their story to the OT more naturally - through recurring characters and locations, it made the stories flow better one into another in spite of 19 years between them.

    What it did improve for me is A New Hope and that was a tall, TALL order - the events of ANH have added weight to them, everything seems more urgent and more dire and Luke's destruction of the Death Star seems like the triumph of the entire Rebellion - from Galen, to our Rogues and everyone that died at Scarif. Even the deaths above Yavin seem more meaningful.

    I hope every stand-alone has similar ramifications. I like how just one movie made the fabric of Star Wars richer. And we are only at the beginning...
     
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    Could not agree more.
    I really did enjoy how it connected the PT to the OT a little more naturally. Makes the worlds of the PT feel organic.
    I'm confident now that Disney will visit more locations and characters from the PT to create these stand alone films.
     
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    Not everyone has the same taste. I for instance like episode 1 more than episode 3. I love all Star Wars, I absolutely love the prequels, I enjoy them, but in comparison I don't love them as much as the OT, TFA and RO.
     
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    I don't think it affected the PT in any way.
     
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    You can't cause a poor film to be made "better" with another film.

    In my opinion, RO improved the IDEA of the prequels (ROTS only, really), or their story among SW lore, simply by showing more connection. But you can't improve the films themselves.

    But there really isn't an answer to this thread, because the matter is so subjective.
     
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    They dont...they dont like that the prequels were left out is all...now if the current films help with the overall saga then we would all appreciate that and R1 is a start
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    LOL.

    Indeed. And that is why I understand the character of Cassian, for example, shooting an informant that could compromise his mission: he has a greater mission, and sometimes they are faced with those kind of dilemmas to survive.

    That was really neat. I liked that we could see a glimpse of the bigger picture and how the Rebel Alliance had fractures and people who had a different perspective on how things should be done.

    Totally agree with you. I mean, it improves the saga since we can see the perspective of just common individuals - not Jedi, not Sith - living in a galaxy affected by the impact of the actions of others and taking action to fight for freedom and justice. They are not perfect, they are not flawless, but they are fighting for what they believe in.

    For me, now the events of ANH are way more poignant since we can get the desperation in Leia's voice when she's recording the hologram to Obi-Wan. He is indeed her only hope: her ship has been boarded and the plans she received from the Profundity are about to be lost if Vader gets his hands on them.

    Also gives this so-called plothole from ANH - how on earth were the Rebels so sure that there was a convenient flaw on the Death Star so they could destroy it? - a great resolution. It was the love of a father for his daughter that made him build and design a terrible thing so he could include his revenge against the Empire on it.
     
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