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SPECULATION Domhnall Gleeson in TFA

Discussion in 'Star Wars: The Force Awakens' started by PrinceJ86, Sep 6, 2014.

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    Funny you should mention that - around the time that Attack Of The Clones was being filmed, George Lucas said that the Jedi code didn't necessarily enforce celibacy so much as it rejected attachment. So theoretically, Yoda could have had a number of "casual encounters" and inadvertently conceived a number of bastard children while still being faithful to the Jedi Code (provided he could move on and put the people he slept with in the back of his mind).

    ...Sorry for putting that mental image into your head.
     
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    Interesting. Good point. Then why was obi wan pissed at anakin when he found out the father of padme's children was anakin?
     
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    He wasn't pissed at Anakin, and I don't believe he was disappointed in him for having an attachment in the first place. If you re-watch the scene where Obi-Wan discovers Padmé is pregnant, he isn't mad at all; he's just saddened that Padmé has to be burdened with the knowledge that, not only has her husband betrayed the Jedi Order, but that that action (and her opposition to the growing Empire) is going to split their marriage (and subsequently, their children) apart. He was, however, upset at the lengths Anakin was taking to keep their relationship a secret.

    Retroactively speaking, he could actually relate to Anakin's situation - in The Clone Wars, he even said that, during his early training, he had seriously considered dropping out of the Jedi Order to be with Duchess Satine of Mandalore, a longtime friend of his. Their romantic feelings toward one another are brought back into focus when the conflict draws him to the planet, and are similarly damaged by the circumstances brought about by the war. So not only is he not mad at Anakin, but he had been faced with a similar dilemma shortly before Anakin's fall to the Dark Side.
     
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    No attachments does not mean they did not have sexual relationships. It doesn't have to be anything sleazy either. Perhaps a poor choiceof words but the intent is the same but perhaps friends with benefits. Who knows what types of taboos they may or may not recognize in the Jedi Order.
    just saying it frees up alot of room for talk of jedi decedent's be them solo Skywalker or any other jedi of old for that matter. Boyega could be the grandson of Mace Windu. I'm not saying this is the case. Just an example of my hypothesis.
     
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    I don't know, since the cast was announced I pictured Gleeson going the way of Anthony Daniels - a droid of some sort - otherwise maybe a jedi-to-be under the tutelage of Luke past or present. I don't see him as evil, or any type of physical threat which is why I only see him as a droid I guess. I think Luke will have too much baggage storywise to throw a kid on top of things. If he is Ben Skywalker, then the writer(s) might feel compelled/required to explain Mara Jade, etc., etc. It's just too much. The more streamlined the story is, the better. Gleeson is a fine actor, just not a major (jedi/sith) player in my mind. I am fully prepared to stick foot in mouth....
     
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    He's in the famous "script read" photo, next to Anthony Daniels. One of the "main" characters and it seems we've heard the least about his role. We've heard more about Isaac's role. He hasn't been spoken of on any of the sets we know about. No mention of what he wears.

    I toyed with the idea that he could be a droid, but he's to good of an actor to be in a mask. He's also has good comedic timing and is very likable.

    Any ideas?

    http://www.cinemablend.com/new/Hear...ell-Us-About-Star-Wars-Episode-VII-66667.html
     
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    A Domnhall Gleeson thread already existed. I merged them together.
     
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    I don't think Pip will be more than a stunt performer of some sort. A role as important as a Skywalker has to have had onscreen speaking roles in movies. Could Dom's character be a Solo? Luke and Leia look very different and are twins. He could be "Kira's" Twin or brother. Driver could be a Solo too. 3 of Anakin's grandchildren all with very different paths. Driver very much like his father and his grandfather, Daisy's very much like Luke and Dom could be more like Leia who is strong in her convictions and the most level headed.

    Perhaps Dom and Daisy were both being trained by Luke and something forced them to split up the group.
     
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    He will be a drug runner called Old Toby Wan.

    (and in the movie he will go home and rethink his life)
     
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    The fact we haven't heard ANYTHING about Gleeson is...really interesting. I don't think it's by accident either.
     
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    I have slightly moved my position regarding his role...I still think that people are overestimating his character. I bet he is a protocol droid...or maybe, just maybe a Kenobi/random new jedi character. I would think that he would be filming still if he were to be a major player (or one of the big 3 = DR, Boyega and Isaac).

    He is filming The Revenant currently and must have wrapped Ep 7. I would think that if he was the grave robber/Luke's evil son or Solo's kid flying around in the Falcon as someone on these boards suggested, he would still be at it with the others filming the last minute, and most likely important scenes JJ and co don't want leaked - a tight grip until the very end.
     
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    I think so too... is Daisy really the star of this movie? I think there must be something very special about his role.

    Shootings schedules are often structured around an actor's commitments. He's very sought after, appearing in at least 5 movies next year. He was one of the last cast before the "cast" picture. I wouldn't read much into him already working on another film.
     
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    Anthony Daniels and Oscar Isaac are are already done filming.... I guess they're not important.
     
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    I think what that says more then him "not being important" just means there are Ridley/Boyega/Ford scenes he won't be in. The one interview he has given about his role is that even the slightest hint about who he is would be a major spoiler. That just screams someone's offspring, and I am of the "he is a Skywalker" party. I had originally put forth the idea that he turned to the dark side after the death of his mother and Luke went into exile to reevaluate his life. But now I think we will see Gleeson falling to the dark side in VII, perhaps as a result of the Solo/Skywalker/Driver climax. Redeeming him will be a subplot of future films alongside the Ancient Fear and my theoretical Sith Army
     
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    Isaac will have a larger role - I thought that was indirectly confirmed. The speculation has been that Gleeson was Solo's kid and he was running around in the falcon with Han. I just assume if that rumor was true he would be in the final climatic moment of han's death. Can't we also assume he and others saying his role is a major spoiler as a misdirection? Faraci said he is a spoiler - prove it. Has that guy ever been wrong ?
     
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    I'm really thinking that Gleeson is the Grave Robber cyborg...
     
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    I had the same belief, What makes you think that?
     
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    Well, since the Grave Robber role is still unknown and Gleeson has such a likeness to Luke, it'd make sense if he was the grandson of Darth Vader and had some weird desire to learn about his family history. It's a dark way to take the story, but it'd be interesting.
     
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    I agree, I believe he will end up wearing Vader's helmet, then continue to pass the legacy down through generations. I don't see Luke ever wearing the helmet, but his son may have an affinity for Anakin/Vader. He may have been visited by Anakin's spirit to learn he was Vader.
     
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    "I'm a Sith, like my grandfather before me"

    I can see it, I just would personally rather see something traumatic push him over the edge. I feel like falling to the dark side shouldn't come from something as simple as being interested in the actions of ones grandfather. Otherwise I would be a bank robber like my great uncle haha
     
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