SPECULATION Domhnall Gleeson in TFA

People keep saying, "oh, we haven't heard anything about them" but really, there are several characters we haven't heard anything about... Chrissy Chong, Maisie, Dixie, Crystal... a scrap enough to let us know they are in, and in some cases that they wrapped...

 

True, TIDMADT. And we have heard things about Gleeson's SW7 character....from Gleeson himself:

Domhnall Gleeson To Play “Space Pikey” In Next Star Wars Movie

ALTHOUGH plot details on the next installment of the Star Wars saga are scarce, Irish actor Domhnall Gleeson has let slip a few nuggets of information about the character he will be playing, which he has described as being a “space pikey”.

The young actor, best known for his role as Brendan Gleeson’s son, blabbed the top-secret Episode VII storylines while hammered at an after party of his new movie Frank.

“I basically play the ******* Connors of Tatooine” blabbed the redhaired thespian, whose real name is Donal Gleeson.

“I’m caught robbing the landing gear off of the Millennium Falcon by Chewbacca, and there’s this really funny bit where me and Chewie understand each other. That’s how my character gets mixed up with everyone else, and we all go off on a mad one altogether”.

This will be the second time an Irish traveller type character will feature in a Star Wars movie, as the crime boss Jabba the Hutt, originally played by an Irish actor, was later cut before being replaced by the animatronic slug creature. In order to ensure that history doesn’t repeat itself, Mr. Gleeson is doing everything he can to ensure his performance stays in the film.

“Yeah, I’ve been living on a halting site for six months now, trying to get the accent right” said Gleeson, as executives from Disney waved non-disclosure contracts at him from the sidelines. “I’ve been trying to get into the mindset of a Traveller, so that I can bring it to the movie.”

“There’s a scene where I have a bare-knuckle fight with a Stormtrooper, and also one where I try to convince Luke Skywalker that ‘these are the gates he’s looking for’. I’ve seen some concept art for this CGI creature, it’s kinda like a dog but not really a dog… kinda like a space dog, if you know what I mean. Anyways, my character owns about ninety of them”.

 

Ok, I guess you gotta be Irish to get the humor... but this isn't serious... seriously, it isn't serious... it's a fake news site like theonion

Exactly

On the positive side, it was freakin classic...

 

halting site for 6 months? hammered and yet still eloquent?

lol watch out..

if they are gonna make something up.. surely something better than that?

 

Oh they're freaking classic... they ran this story about North Korea's astronauts having landed on the sun... they had to travel at night to keep from burning up, it was freakin finest mate... you need to go and read it. Story from yesterday was they were replacing the bell on the tram with a recording that says, "get the Blast out of the way"

 

Except he will not be evil, he will be out to change Vader's image from bad to good.

 

Heh! I thought I might get a "That has been debunked", but this will teach me to pay more attention to my entertainment news sources. I found it at one of the more popular Star Wars fandom sites a while back and it came with no caveats. In hindsight the part about the lawyers waving contracts at him made me chuckle, but other than being amused with myself for falling for it, I am sorry to say it's hilarity is lost on me.

 

Don't be too hard on yourself... like I said, the site is a hoot, and it really gained popularity after the Korea/sun post... apparently it got picked up by several news agencies (trolls) who simply regurgitate things they find on the net without doing any fact checking... so you are in good company.

Some of the site's other SW posts:

Healy-Rae Family Score Parts In New Star Wars Movie

Star Wars Imperial March Constantly Playing In Gerry Adams’s Head

You gotta love it... and apparently, you can make this stuff up

 

None of them were in the main cast photo.

 

The cast photo was released April 29, 2014

Maisie was cast days before the photo's release, potentially about the time it was taken

Lupita, Dixie and Chong were cast in July

They aren't wearing stormtrooper outfits, which is probably why they weren't photoshopped in...

 

Haven't there been rumors that some people explicitly stayed out of the cast photo? For you know "mystery box" purposes

 

I apologize if this has been speculated in other threads before.. but my theory is that Dom Gleeson is the "Grave Robber" character of Episode 7.

We know that:
1. Daisy Ridley has been seen on set (face recognized).
2. John Boyega has been seen on set (face recognized).
3. Adam Driver has been photographed on set (face recognized).
4. Mark Hamill was seen entering Skellig Michael set (face recognized).

Speculation could be that Gleeson is either doing voice-acting work only, or that he is acting in costume and not able to be recognized. Which leads me to believe that Gleeson is the "villain" of the story, and the twist is that he may have been working with Luke Skywalker all along in an effort to expose some dormant or secret Sith threat.

The concept art for Grave Robber shows a youngish-man, so Hamill wouldn't fit that role. Concept art also shows he's got access to some type of ship (the seated image shows him in front of Star Destroyer type windows) and that he's got some type of cybernetic replacement parts to one of his arms and face.

For Lucas' penchant for having themes "rhyme" Luke Skywalker, who had worked to save his more machine than man father, may be working with a new character who is more man than machine, in some type of hidden way.

Lucas said the third trilogy (before he got into the habit of denying that there would be one) would be more "spiritual" in tone and talk about the nature of power, and the perception of good vs. evil.

Perhaps, rather than restore their "guardians" role in the Republic, the role of the sequel trilogy Jedi is more mystical in nature. Instead of being tied to defending the Republic.. the Jedi trained under Luke may have the goal of seeking to understand the nature of the Force itself.

My bet is that Gleeson fits the bill to play this type of character.... and that's why we haven't heard anything about his role.

 

While I don't agree with one shred of it, the "worked to save his more machine than man father, may be working with a new character who is more man than machine" line is one of the most original, and insightful, lines I have read here in a while, and that is worthy of a nod...

 

At the same time, think of all of the other actors that we have not gotten definitve confirmation of specific involvement: Lupita, Issac, Christie, Serkis, and Von Sydow etc. So having not heard anything just means we haven't heard anything.

Here is my thought. I have always thought that Gleeson would be a high ranking Imperial Officer. We will need some of those, and speculation on that front has been virtually non-existant beside Christie possibly being a high ranking storm trooper. And I don't beleive that he has been reported at any locations which probally means he is doing studio work exclusively which would make sense if he is primarily on imperial vessels.

I will be very suprized if Gleeson is the grave robber. I am leaning more toward Serkis myself with Driver as the apprentice/errand boy.

 

I can definitely see Gleeson as a villain, could've been what Feraci meant in his tweet about 'being blown away by the actor playing the baddie'.

This may also support my theory of Driver being a Rebel Pilot/Wedge type character.



(Get it? A wedge and a driver?!)

 

I can't see us being "blown away" by any of the new actors playing the Grave Robber... we don't know anything about them yet, so we don't know what to expect from them yet... it would come as no surprise (unless it was something totally unexpected, like Warwick playing him somehow, or something like that)

We have speculations that the Grave Robber is Gleeson, Driver, Christie... why would any of those "blow us away"?

 

I am one of the few that think Gleeson is the 'Grave Robber', even though the evidence points towards Luke. But I believe Gleeson is Luke's son, and as the 'Grave Robber' is not evil or sith, but is concealing his identity as to not let the galaxy know who is posing as Vader. 'Grave Robber' to me is the term they are using for the guy who brings Vader's image back from the grave, if the galaxy believes him to be dead or not, to take advantage of the fear the galaxy has toward him. Whether it's Luke or Gleeson, Vader's Helmet will stay in the family being passed on through generations.

 

Thanks, I appreciate that... that's the fun of speculating I suppose. I think Luke's role is probably central to the story, although it sounds like everyone is looking for him as a MacGuffin, his role and his guidance is going to be critical in setting up the tone of the new movies. If he's working "with" a cyborg, that puts a new twist on things.

The other thing we can kind of interpolate is who is working "with" who in based on actor interviews, etc.

Daisy Ridley has has scenes with John Boyega throughout filming, leading me to guess that that they are the two leads.
Harrison Ford has had scenes with both Adam Driver and Oscar Isaacs, leading me to guess that all three of them are good guys.
Mark Hamill has had scenes with Daisy Ridley on Skellig Michael, leading me to guess that this is the spot where Luke is found/rescued.
The only actor that has had no mention of being filmed or seen on location, that I know of, is Dom Gleeson. That can only mean that he's playing an alien (either motion captured or voice acting only) or that he's playing a character that's wearing pretty extensive makeup and is not recognizable.

The only lead actors/characters that are wearing extensive makeup that I know of are Chewbacca, C3PO, Max Von Sydow's character (Montross?) and the "grave robber".

So in my mind, it makes sense that Dom Gleeson is playing the grave robber character.
Maybe in an attempt to be "Zorro" and help Luke on an ultra secret mission or goal?

Which would make sense of the spy report that Daisy Ridley hugs whoever the grave robber takes her to at the end of the movie. Luke is working with the grave robber... thats probably the big twist of Ep 7 and we find out why in Ep 8.

 

He could be the voice of Kira's droid. Or perhaps Dohmnall's character is the the "light side" character trying to get the Sith artifacts before the "dark side" characters do. There could be a hidden agenda behind much of what's going on that won't be clear. Secret Sith weapons, jedi lightsabers... acolytes and undercover Jedi. Think of it as a Cold War between the light and dark sides jockeying for advantage. More intrigue and misdirection. Characters we think sinister are "double agents", characters considered "family" are villians.