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Dune (Denis Villeneuve)

Discussion in 'Film' started by Lord Phanatic, Mar 19, 2018.

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    My only complaint is that I made the mistake of reading the entire saga straight through to the unfinished treatments that were supposedly found in Frank Herbert's safe and then finished by his son with Kevin Anderson, ending with Sandworms of Dune.

    "You mean I read 8 books and it was all about a continuously reincarnated Duncan making humans and thinking machines play nice together?" I literally closed the final book with a major WTF moment. It has to be by far the most unsatisfying end to a major series I have ever read.

    Maybe I need to go back and reread the first 3, but now that I know where it is heading this went from one of my favorite sci-fi series to one that I could have lived without...it really did ruin it for me.

    With that being said, I'll definitely watch this when it is released.

    I really, really, really hope that EP IX doesn't ruin the Skywalker saga for me like Sandworms ruined Dune.
     
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    I wasn't aware Dune and Star Wars were fighting. I hope neither of them are injured!
     
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    it is my most anticipated of 2020 since Star Wars is taking a break Plus i have enjoyed all of Denis films so far
     
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    Me too. Great Director.

    Sicario 10/10
    Blade Runner 9/10
    Enemy 9/10
    Incendies 8/10
    Prisoners 8/10
    Arrival 8/10

    Polytechnique, Maelstrom and August 32nd on Earth are the ones that I didn't see yet.
     
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    Denis Villeneuve is perfect to direct this and the cast is amazing!

    Oscar Isaac as Duke Leto Atreides
    Josh Brolin as Gurney Halleck
    Stellan Skarsgård as Baron Vladimir Harkonnen
    Dave Bautista as Glossu Rabban
    Jason Momoa as Duncan Idaho
    Javier Bardem as Stilgar
    David Dastmalchian as Piter De Vries
    Zendaya as Chani
    Rebecca Ferguson as Lady Jessica
    Timothée Chalamet as Paul Atreides
    Charlotte Rampling as Gaius Helen Mohiam

    I do wish Roger Deakins was doing the cinematography, but Grieg Fraser (Rogue One, The Mandalorian) should do fine.
     
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    I'm super-excited for this. Definitely one of my most highly-anticipated films of the next few years. I love the original book(s) and I actually love David Lynch's Dune, even though I understand why some don't. I liked some things about the TV adaptation series. But this new version has the potentional to be amazing.
     
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    This channel has some great videos on Dune:

     
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    ^ "Many people have a harder time reading the second book, Dune Messiah, because it breaks tropes by deconstructing the Hero's journey. It's not a typical sequel, and it puts some people off."

    [​IMG]
     
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    Ideasoficeandfire sure has many good vids. He's a bit salty at times for my taste (going on about things he don't like rather than spending his time loving what he loves -- gotta milk those clicks, I guess), but he's one of the good ones. (Caveat, I haven't seen this specific video yet and cannot do so at work).

    I tend to say that Dune is my most favorite book ever, and I'm actually re-reading it for the 6-7 time atm (and I still find new things in this marvelous novel), but in truth, my most favorite book is Dune Messiah. (Spoiler) Paul ends Dune in God-Mode, and a sequel that followed up on that, possibly by introducing some Devil-Mode opponent for super-Paul to fight, would be very boring. What Frank Herbert did instead was accepting the consequences of what he had set up, playing up the "terrible purpose" and the horrors & consequences of a righteous Jihad in Paul-Muad'dib's name, and tear EVERYTHING down in the second book. I love it! It is such an interesting turn of events -- the hero gets everything he fought for, only for that everything to then turn to poodoo -- and it makes for a MUCH more interesting story than Paul flitting about the place being a demi-god super hero.

    <3 Dune Messiah <3

    I hope "they" continue the Villeneuve project with more films in the FH Dunology (and I won't mind adaptations of his son's work either).


    (And yes, there's a clear analogy to SW here, in both ESB & TLJ, but not so much in AotC as that was more of a second beginning than a sequel to TPM).
     
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    @Angelman, i know Brian and Kevin wrote a ton of books set both before and after the main Frank Herbert series. At this point, I've only ever read Dune and Dune: House Atreides (when it was first published back in '99). Where should one begin? Chronologically by publication date, or chronologically in-universe? It's kind of like giving someone advice on how to watch the SW series!
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    Oooh, this is VERY tempting:

    https://www.amazon.com/Children-Dun...WJNXMWCZMHJ&psc=1&refRID=E1W6QE1XCWJNXMWCZMHJ
     
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    My personal advise is to read Frank Herberts 6 books (aka. the "Dunology" as the fans call it). Dune, Dune Messiah, & Children of Dune are all great and accessible, but God-Emperor of Dune is a bit of a challenge (slow paced philosophical-mystical meditation interspersed with some action), while Chapterhouse Dune & Heretics of Dune are rather easy-read action fests and not very challenging at all :)

    Beyond that, the Brian Herbert & Kevin J. Anderson stuff is just extra. Their style is quite different and they are not writers of Frank Herbert's caliber. Read whatever sounds interesting to you from their spin-off stuff :)

    Oh, and the Frank Herbert's Dune & Frank Herbert's Children of Dune TV-series are great! (The latter are the books Dune Messiah & Children of Dune rolled into one show). They are sort of low-budget, uber-theatrical affairs, but I like them a lot! :D (And I do not recommend watching the lame abomination that is the Lynch movie, by the way :p ...and now people are going to hate me ;) )
     
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    I do remember liking that first prequel back in '99, House Atreides, and feeling it was a valiant attempt at matching Frank Herbert's writing style. Parts of it reminded me of The Phantom Menace, another first prequel released that same year-- in particular, aspects of Duncan Idaho's backstory struck me as similar to young Anakin, IIRC.
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    I owned both Sci-fi miniseries on DVD ages ago. I saw Frank Herbert's Dune featured in a "coming soon on BD" trailer for Lionsgate when the format launched in 2006, so I ditched my DVD and waited to upgrade. And I ditched my CoD DVD, too, because I was certain that would follow Dune on BD. Sadly, none of that actually materialized, so stumbling upon this 2017 Australian BD of CoD was quite the pleasant surprise! Now, where the hell is the original miniseries on BD?!?
     
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    I have the shows only on DVD, but I do have special extended editions of both (I think). Very cool stuff :D
     
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    I just asked my wife to order me that Children of Dune BD using her Amazon Prime. I hope to get it in soon....
     
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    FWIW-- and that's probably not very much-- I attempted to adapt the first Dune book into a screenplay. I envisioned a three-part HBO miniseries, with each part focusing on the three books that comprise the original Dune novel. And I meant for it to be a straight "port" of the book into screenplay form. I got as far as the first two parts before running out of steam....
     
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    Children of Dune Blu-ray in da house!!!
     
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    Same! Really excited, and I'm wondering when we might get a teaser trailer...


    dune-video-game-funcom.jpg dune-frank-herbert-concept-art-fremen-02-simon-goinard-.jpg
     
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    I loved the Original Dune movie. Mau’Dib always reminded me of The Mahdi (Arabic for Messiah, 12th Imam, Shia or Shiite Islam). I am excited if they are remaking it! I saw the series remake but it had too many GoT elements (eh.. how so I say.. hyper mature content?).
     
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    Dune: I am your father.

    Star Wars: No. That's not possible. My father was Flash Gordon.

    Dune: Search your feelings, you know it to be true.

    Star Wars: Noooo!
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    Concept art looks awesome though so there is that.
     
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