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Editorial: The Tragedy of Jar Jar Binks (Aftermath: Empires End SPOILERS)

Discussion in 'SWNN News Feed' started by SWNN Probe, Feb 22, 2017.

  1. SWNN Probe

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    Yes, weesa going there...





    Star Wars fans are tearing into the last installment in Chuck Wendig's Aftermath trilogy, Empire's End. There's no doubt many questions fans will hope to find answers or hints to. Is any character standing out to be Snoke? Is Luke going to finally show up? Are there any hints at Rey's origins? You'll have to dig into the pages to find out, but I think what many fans will be surprised at is the answer to a question few Star Wars fans have asked:  What was the fate of Jar Jar Binks?



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    When we last saw Jar Jar, he was in the solemn funeral procession for Padme. If you have Prequel Trilogy amnesia, you'll remember Jar Jar hails from Naboo and is a member of the Gungan species. The Gungans are an amphibious culture that mostly dwell in deep underwater cities. After the events of The Phantom Menace, Jar Jar was made a representative in the Republic. Aside from a few appearances in The Clone Wars, fans did not hear from Jar Jar Binks again.



    What's clear is that Jar Jar probably won't go down in Republic history as a distinguished political figure, at least for anything good.  Jar Jar, shortly before the Clone War broke out, was responsible for calling a vote that gave Sheev Palpatine complete authority over the Republic, just a stone's throw from being Emperor. Jar Jar's story never continued after the fall of the Republic and the rise of the Empire. I guess we all assumed he left Coruscant in disgrace and went back to Naboo, at least that's what I thought.



    Before I continue, let's just talk about the 500-pound elephant in the room. Many fans HATE Jar Jar Binks. I know hate is a strong word, that's why I'm using it. The prequels are far down my list of favorite Star Wars films, but I don't dislike them or feel like George Lucas destroyed my inner child. I'll be honest with you, and although the prequels have grown on me over the years, I still did not like Jar Jar Binks. I wouldn't say hate, but his stupidity was not comic relief...it was just annoying. If there is a character in Star Wars I could not have cared less about, it's Jar Jar Binks.



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    After reading the interlude in Empire's End, my entire view of Jar Jar changed. When myself and two others on the staff began reading Empire's End and writing our reviews, one thing Jelena (Lady Musashi) immediately pointed out was Chuck Wendig's success in giving Jar Jar a proper ending. I never saw Jar Jar as a tragic character and often forgot he was manipulated into giving Palpatine the governing powers that lead to oppression. 'HE DID IT!', Jelena exclaimed in an email. I had not yet read the interlude, so when I got there I was taken aback that Wendig chose to include such a polarizing Star Wars character.



    When we meet Jar Jar, he is back on Naboo, in the capital city of Theed. Naboo has welcomed refugees from around the galaxy, specifically the children.  A boy who is curious about becoming an entertainer himself encounters Jar Jar, who is something of an entertainer for the children refugees. The boy has been disfigured and has little hope that he will be adopted. Jar Jar befriends the boy immediately.  We find that Jar Jar keeps scheduled performances and is referred to as only 'the clown'. From the brief descriptions, it sounds like the performances include an ensemble of his greatest hits from The Phantom Menace; falling, spitting up water, etcetera. 'The clown' is Jar Jar's only designation, and it's simply stated that no one on Naboo, especially Gungans, acknowledge his existence. After everything the Gungan has been through, he is relegated to amuse children as some sort of court jester or birthday clown. One could say that's an honorable profession; entertaining refugee children who are coming from the most war torn regions of the galaxy, and I think that it is. It's the loss of belonging that haunts this interlude. Neither Gungan nor human allow Jar Jar an identity beyond the fool.



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    I don't think it's a coincidence that Wendig wrote Jar Jar's fate as being entertainment for children, while suffering the disdain from adults. It's the adults of Naboo that have shunned Jar Jar –all the children think he's great, which I'm sure sounds familiar to those of you who've watched The Phantom Menace with children.  We have to remember George Lucas intended for Jar Jar to be comic relief. It wasn't until years later, when I watched the prequels with my son when he was very young that I got Jar Jar's appeal. I think it's very clever of Wendig to mirror the disregard fans have for Jar Jar with this interlude, while reminding us that kids love him.



    Jar Jar lives in a galaxy where no one wants him. It's almost as if Wendig channeled the collective disdain Star Wars fans feel and injected it into the galaxy far, far away. Whether fans like it or not, Jar Jar is canon, but many fans would just prefer to pretend he does not exist, much like the hypocrites on Naboo. Wendig took a huge risk writing this interlude and giving Jar Jar an end, but it certainly paid off (in my opinion). I'm a big fan of connective tissue in saga storytelling; and although Jar Jar isn't a Jedi or holds the key to Snoke's origins, I was pleased that Wendig brought another prequel character far forward in the timeline from when we last saw him. I would love to see the notes the Story Group sent Wendig on this interlude.



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    Jar Jar is a tragic character. There...I said it. I can no longer look at him with just annoyance. The Gungan was swept up into events that would change the galaxy forever the moment he offered two Jedi help. He helped his people win a battle for their home, as well as the rest of the Naboo. When we meet him in Empire's End, the galaxy seems to have forgotten the good Jar Jar did, especially those on his own planet. There are many who lay in the wake of Palpatine's manipulations, and unfortunately for Jar Jar, no one can see what really happened to him. No one sees the good in him, just an albatross reminder of how quickly Palpatine had the galaxy under the thumb of the Empire.



    Everything Jar Jar did was with genuinely good intentions. Remember that next time you watch the prequels or read a Jar Jar rant online. He may have been annoying, but he was always one of the good guys. Did this interlude redeem Jar Jar? That's kind of a hard question for me. I don't think I'll be flooding Marvel's inbox with requests for a Jar Jar comic series or any other arena in the SW canon. I really hope this is the last we hear about Jar Jar, and I don't mean that in a mean way. Despite it's depressing nature, it's very honest and real, and it adds a new depth to a seemingly superficial character. Redemption is not what I would chose to describe this interlude...I'd say it's more of a reckoning. Jar Jar's reckoning.



    May the Force be with you, Jar Jar.



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    I've just read that part. I feel the same way. Well said. Also, annoyance is needed to bring up other stuff. It's OK some characters are hated or disliked for others to be liked or loved.
     
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    It doesn't redeem Jar Jar to me, but it does close the door and gives him a fate that seems...fair.
    It isn't happy but he isn't obliterated on Alderaan either.

    It's fitting.

    It's a bit of great writing by Wendig (or whomever came up with the idea)
     
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    In Poland we say that Hell is cobbled with good intentions and Jar-Jar is the embodiment of that saying.
     
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    From reading that interlude one word appears in my head: Prejudice.

    It is sad, even for such a controversial character to have this ending. And it makes me think: what if Padme had lived? She probably would have been tremendously judged by many as being another one who helped Palpatine on his rise to ultimate power when she gave the vote of no confidence to Chancellor Valorum. Maybe her political skills might have saved her - and her closeness to the founders of the Rebel Alliance, Bail Organa and Mon Mothma - but we don't know what would be the perspective.

    And we do know the feelings of the whole galaxy regarding Vader. We have seen his daughter suffering for it, no matter that she was a hero for the Rebellion. (Which makes me think the galaxy is full of ungrateful hypocrites ones. LOL).

    Anyway, it was quite interesting to have him including the sad after-Imperial days of this galactic Yorick.
     
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    i know a lot of people don't like Wendig's writing style, but i agree: he is an astute writer.
    the loveliness of this bit with Jar Jar is that the fans can see it as bittersweet and tragic or as a gratifying just dessert.
    it perfectly straddles the line so as not to comment on or criticize anyone's opinion of the character and allows us as the readers to have our own judgment.
     
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    When we’re introduced to Jar-Jar in TPM, he’s already been ostracized by his people. His arc has come full circle now. It’s his lot in life to be a pariah I guess. Meh, them's the breaks.

    Not sure why Binks would get the brunt of disdain over the "emergency powers" issue. After ''dellow felagates'', what group of idiots would follow anything this guy was suggesting? " Who's the more foolish...the fool or the fool who follows him?" Y'know.
     
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    He's definitely not for everyone.
    I like his style. It's not a typical style you find in SW books, but it works for me.
     
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    Wow, now that is way too much. I'm not a fan of the prequels, but seriously, such ending to a character is just... wrong, imo. This is more like an exaggerated reflection of the response to the character rather than a real ending of an arc.
     
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    dont you believe him! He is an evil clown ! That sneaky bastard Darth Jar Jar will return one day to take over the galaxy!
     
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    i still dont think it makes much sense since he pretty much saved his people in the war ni TPM and was even a general so something must have happened for him to become a clown...I dont buy that at least his people would shun him because we dont like him.
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    Yeah, I was thinking along the same lines. The vote of ‘emergency powers’ alone couldn’t have led to that dingleberry being orphaned and looked down on. It’s a fun fan perspective to think that doofus was instrumental to Palp-o-tron's dastardly plans, but that can’t be the in-universe consensus. The average person wouldn’t know the bigger picture.

    There had to be more to it than just that. I was thinking maybe if Jar-Jar Dink had been a staunch supporter of the Empire and that the Gunguns then somehow suffered massively at the hands of the Empire, that would earn him a pretty shady rep. They’d view him as a traitor to his people. That’s how I’d rather see it.
     
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    i would have thought that he would work with bail organa or something along those lines since he's still seems to be on good terms with naboo and all at the end of ROTS or he wouldnt be a part of padme's main funeral procession
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    Yeah, just some straw grabbing on my part. I figure Padme's funeral would have been pretty soon after the Empire's birth though and we don't really know how tight Bail and the Jar are.
     
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    Seeing him acting like this, what a fall.
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    tHEY should be tighter than a pair of shoelaces.
     
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    Who is more of a clown, the one who always shows his innermost feelings, who is constantly authentic without filters, or the one who always tries to behave how others want him to. Personally, I like Clown characters, also in real live. They are most important in a world of cockalorums.


    Btw imo the expression"reckoning" does not completely fit.
     
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    I like them to, especially going to circus's the flower squirting trick always gets me, anyway his fate has been set.
     
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    Well I was scared S****** of them so for me that is a horrible end & he deserved better maybe have him die defending some kids from the empire & put him out of his misery
     
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    This is a load of horsesh*t. This is Disney's way of appeasing those fanboys who spent years hating Jar-Jar because he was clumsy and a character from the Prequel Trilogy. Because of this ridiculous hatred, many people have dumped most of the blame on Jar-Jar for Palpatine's rise, because he had been tricked into making a proposal for a vote on giving Palpatine more power in "Attack of the Clones". These same fans tend to turn a blind eye to Padme's role in Palpatine's rise in "The Phantom Menace", along with the Jedi, Anakin and especially the Galactic Senate.

    And because of this blind hatred, Disney had decided to change Jar-Jar's fate to this RIDICULOUS fate. Screw you Lucasfilm, screw you Kathleen Kennedy and screw you Disney!
     
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