End of Kanan, Ezra & Ahsoka

@Canadian Ronin, we've hashed this out already, and I think you and I simply won't be able to come to an understanding. Its fine if you refuse to acknowledge that we simply do not know what happens to the force sensitives in Rebels and that there are other (more creative) options than death, but I'm beginning to feel like we're just talking in circles. I think you already know my answer to this, and if you don't... it's spelled out plainly in previous posts.

 

I ignored it because it's only not apples to apples when seen through your lens, which I find rather lacking of vision. To me, with what we currently know, it's irrelevant.

And I shouldn't have to spell this out yet again, but I suppose I'll clarify myself one last time- these other options need not "undermind"/weaken the original trilogy. Because, as I and others have stated ad nauseam, we do not know what happens yet.

 

As I said, you need only look at my old posts to refute that claim. They'd also show why Ahsoka and the gang wouldn't necessarily be able to help Luke. It's getting kind of ridiculous, these absolutes you're dealing with.

 

Good lord, you think I'm avoiding your questions? Your very asking of these questions at this point is just evidence that you've ignored everything that I've said in this thread so far!
But you know what, I'll humor you. Do try to pay attention this time.

1) None. Never claimed it was.

2) I have done this time and time again. They're in the Unknown Regions (or literally anywhere else where they couldn't help). Now read this part because it's very important- Specifics don't matter, not right now. Poke all the holes you want (since you apparently just want someone to tell you that you're right). You don't know what is going to happen, so without that context, you cannot make a reasonable decision as to where these characters are going to be at the end of a season that you haven't seen a single episode of. So all that matters is that they're in some situation (in this hypothetical case, in the Unknown Regions) and are unable to provide aid- not how or why they got there. Maybe they're investigating a threat, maybe they're in prison, maybe they took a wrong left turn and got lost. Doesn't matter.

It's an incredibly simple concept of epistemology. A lack of knowledge prevents absolute claims.

 

I really don't know how I can make this any more clear...

1) Is your issue that in one scenario Rogue One is still fighting the Empire and in the other the force sensitives are not? Because sure, that'd be true enough. But the comparison that I was making was that both groups could still be alive without necessarily causing issues with the OT, not that they were both still fighting the Empire. Hopefully that clears it up for you?

2) Something can't be a complete contradiction of a character when specific aren't involved. Are you saying, for instance, that it's a contradiction of Ezra's character that he's in prison (one of the possibilities I gave, if you even bothered reading)? That makes no sense.

 

Not if they are trapped or lost in the Unknown Regions far far away.

 

Yep, this has clearly become a waste of time.

Absolute claims without evidence aren't even worth discussing. Have a nice day, and enjoy Rebels Season 4.

 

I agree that you can't have all three surviving through to the time of the ST. But it could work out really well to have one of them show up in Episode IX(when the good side has their backs to the ropes and all seems lost) in a - perhaps sacrificial - cameo to buy the good guys time to regain their footing. Right now it looks like it's just Kylo, Rey, and maybe Luke who are the bad-a$$ Force-wielding light-sabers-people in the ST. But even if the other members of the KOR do not use sabers, that doesn't mean they couldn't be completely bad-azz assassins. Luke and Rey might be overwhelmed and Ezra or Ahsoka could save the moment, so Luke and Rey can save the galaxy.

Anything is possible as long as it is written well. And that sounds awesome to me.

 

Sigh, I now regret ever replying to the OP. I do apologize.

I could see from the OP that CR wasn't currently in a frame of mind to look outside his opinion, and hoped that a simple statement could expand that (for his sake, honestly). 100+ posts later I see that I was wrong. I wish I had not stirred the pot - it got none of us anywhere.

Over 100 posts of banter, and every post from CR is him restating that he cannot perceive of ANY scenario that can be written that does not undermine the story unless all three are dead. That's his very highly focused opinion, and he's obviously sticking to it. I do hope he is not disappointed, but have a strong feeling he will be.

Please, let's all just move along, we're not getting anywhere.

 

Agree to disagree. Ahsoka is NOT a Jedi. It could easily be done that Kanan gets killed and Ezra decides to join her as a neutral Force-wielder.

 

From Rebels, TFA, books, games, etc, etc, It is obvious to me that the LSG is saying anything goes in the rebooted GFFA. As long as it is written/executed well, it could work perfectly without any violation of the OT.

'Nuff said. ... Laterz

--- Double Post Merged, Jun 9, 2017, Original Post Date: Jun 9, 2017 ---

I just realized what this thread reminded me of.

Welcome to CR's little train station

 

Ezra can fail to become a Jedi. He is only a Padawan. Ahsoka never became a Jedi. Kanan is the only known Jedi alive other than Yoda and OB1 in the Rebels time frame. Those are just facts. Yoda and OB1 never said there were no other Force Sensitives alive. They said Luke was the Last Jedi and their only hope. Except Yoda mentioned another.

The inquisitors cause more undermining to the original Luke story than Ahsoka and an Ezra that never becomes a Jedi Knight.