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End of Kanan, Ezra & Ahsoka

Discussion in 'Star Wars: Rebels' started by Canadian Ronin, May 17, 2017.

  1. Colonel_Ender

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    “How will Kana, Ezra and *sigh* Ahsoka (cause we know Filoni just can't get away from his favourite pet characters) be dealt with by the end of Rebels?”

    He is not letting go of Ahsoka because the fans want her.

    “*Note - Please don't bring up any "Kanan and/or Ezra could still be alive etc...." BS arguments.”

    Pleas explain how our theories are BS.

    “The entire point of the OT is that everything comes down to 1 Jedi, and 1 Jedi only. Luke. Once we introduce other Jedi characters (Kanan, Ezra, Ahsoka etc...) into the mix that story is underminded.”

    You don’t know that. They don’t have to die. Well, I am expecting for Kanan to die but not Ezra or Ahsoka. Maybe they went on different paths? Ok, what is up this obsession that “Everything must line up exactly with the movies”. This is Star Wars. I’m pretty sure that the galaxy is bigger than just Luke Skywalker.

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    Ezra is pretty much a Jedi now. And Ahsoka is not. She is, a Grey User of the Force. The Grey Order is slowly coming back to canon.
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    That’s a really good theory. That is a good way for them to end the series.


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    Ok first off Kanan and Ezra can still be alive after ROTJ they don’t have to get involved with Luke and even Ahsoka can still be alive during ANH - ROTJ. Kanan and Ezra don’t have to get involved with Luke they are off doing their own thing on Lothal/Mandalor although I do believe that Kanan probably will die in season 4 of Rebels by most likely sacrificing himself for the ghost crew. I do see Ezra surviving this season and I think after the Empire is destroyed he might just live a peaceful life after that. And Ahsoka we all know that Ahsoka survived the battle with Vader ( thanks to Dave Filloni who has been giving us tons of hints like the shirts he wore during the Star Wars Celebration and more) so she most likely will come back to the fight during season 4 or she just stayed hiding somewhere.
     
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    Bottom line is I don't think GL had Ashoka in mind in the early 89s when he wrote those lines. The only question is how far would the writing group go to shoe horn an excuse to keep her alive into those ambiguous lines.
     
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    Sorry if this has already been said, I didn't read the whole thread. I agree that Disney won't kill them off in a kids show like this. My feeling is they'll leave it as a cliffhanger for a rebels movie to tie it up, either cartoon or anthology. I also agree that their survival beyond the start of the OT would undermine it and leave us feeling as insulted as finding out anakin built c3p0, or some of the other lame ways the pt forced in ot characters. It would maybe even be worse
     
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    Disney is too unpredictable. I hate those people. They are slowly screwing up Star Wars like Microsoft is slowly ruining Minecraft. They pay the Rebel’s animators peanuts and they give them animation software that is not as good as what was used in the Clone Wars.
     
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    *Note - Please don't bring up any "Kanan and/or Ezra could still be alive etc...." BS arguments. The entire point of the OT is that everything comes down to 1 Jedi, and 1 Jedi only. Luke. Once we introduce other Jedi characters (Kanan, Ezra, Ahsoka etc...) into the mix that story is underminded. I know some people will want to bring up this angle - to those people. You're wrong, learn to let go. That's not what this thread is about*

    And yet, we know for a fact that "Jedi" doesn't mean non bad-guy Force user anymore than Sith means dark side user. How many Sith are there at any given time. 2. No more, no less. So what was Ventress? Maul? Savage? The Inquisitors? All dark side users, but not Sith. The Jedi are members of the Jedi Order. One can be a light side Force user and not be a member of the Jedi just as one can be a dark side user and not be Sith, as we've seen many times. "Last of the Jedi will you be" could easily mean that Luke is the last Jedi, not last light side Force user. We already know from TCW and Rebels that Ahsoka is not a Jedi any longer, and yet she didn't vanish in a puff of smoke or lose her Force powers when she stopped being a Jedi. There is no reason whatsoever within established canon that someone can still be alive and even a Force user and not a member of the Jedi or Sith ideologies.
     
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    Ughhh...I've seen so many lame copout theories , "ahsoka isn't a jedi any more", "Ezra isn't technically a jedi yet", "neutrality like the bendu", blah blah blah. Weak. Not gonna happen. Maybe it can technically fix the problem but so can other lame theories, like maybe they all crash land on a post apocalyptic wasteland like parnassos , fry their comms, and are stuck to live oblivious to the OT happenings. Nope. I don't wanna believe they'll cheat us that bad. It would feel like a Hogan piper 80s wrestling match ending in a double count out. They want people to watch the next animated series, not feel screwed and abandon ship. Maybe one, probably Ezra, will walk away from the rebellion but kanan and ahsoka will be gone. I still think there's a chance they leave a cliff hanger for an animated or anthology movie to tie up. But one thing is certain, no lame copout nonsense is gonna happen
     
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    I mean, "Jedi" isn't just a random word that people bandy around. It has an actual meaning.
    Is Ahsoka a member of that order? No, she left.
    Is Ezra? No, he was never part of it to begin with.

    Neither of those are "copouts". You just personally do not like the answer, and that's fine.

    Now, having Kanan be "knighted" in Season 2 is kind of problematic, I'll give you that, because it does conflict with the "last of the Jedi" thing, especially if Yoda knows. Guess we'll just have to see where they go with him.
     
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    So, everyone does realize the writers will be completely lazy about things and have the main characters split up and rendezvous on alderaan right? Then ezra and kanan will just die off screen
     
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    I think that leave the case for a novelization of the crew or separate novel for them. They always say its possible for them to be alive through the OTs, especially ANH. So my aim is i would like to see a film or maybe them creating a anime movi(highly doubt) i would like to see them go the route to where we know how things would end up. Ezra goes with senator organa to alderran which we kno how that ends. and giving Kannan that jedi mentality of sacrifice(greater good) thing we all see noble. Ahsoka can be that lost grey jedi who might end up in the new films as far as the force and other side of the spectrum. this is all opinions on how i would like to see it done.

    I dont think the writers are lazy and all but see the financial output with clone wars and rebels, you can see where GL made it something to where Disney is making a simple profit from creating a line withing the arc. i believe if it was on the CN still and GL has control with Filioni on deck, we would see a better story and long expansion of the relm of SW. we would see a combination of R1 in rebels, you know. but its all imagination for me.
     
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    Pretty sure Filoni said in an interview that the Rebels gang would not end up on Alderaan by the series end?
     
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    Good. I hope not. That would be such a lazy way to end their arcs.
     
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    Just another way to kill them offscreen - Alderaan, Jedha, Scarif etc. - all would be a huge disservice to the series overall. 4 seasons just to hear the lines, "we're all off to Alderaan!" fade to end credits. No thanks.
     
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    I really hope we get some closure with them.

    So far, I haven't been all that impressed with S4. It just seems like they're unaware that there's just half a season left- other than
    Mandalore, maybe the Death Star plans, and this slow Lothal stuff
    we really haven't been tying up any loose ends.
     
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    Yep, still have to get to what happened with Saw, the Lothal plot, Thrawn's future, the crew of the Ghost and their fates, possibly Ahsoka too...

    Running out of time now
     
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    I have actually been enjoying this season. Except for the Crawler Commanders episode, none of the episode were "fillers". I am not sure which story lines people expect to be resolved with Rebels. The stories of Saw, Thrawn, and likely Ahsoka will be told elsewhere. The second half of the season will focus on the rescue of Hera and the destruction of the TIE defender factory on Lothal. The futures of the main characters (Ezra, Sabine, Kanan, Hera, Zeb, Chopper) will only be decided in the last two episodes.
     
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    Maybe.

    I think Thrawn will probably be a Rebels-centric character. Sure, he has the books and stuff, but Rebels brought him back, and I'm sure Rebels will finish his arc.

    Saw obviously goes on to Rogue One, and I'm not sure how much of him we'll see again, or the Death Star itself, for that matter.

    I think we'll see Ahsoka again- not sure how, but I think she'll be related in some way to why we haven't heard about Kanan or Ezra in the context of the Rebellion.

    So I don't know, maybe I'm just getting anxious because the series is about to end, but I just feel like we're treading water right now. Outside of wrapping up Mandalore (thank god) the Lothal stuff has been pretty slow going. Most of the episodes have heavily focused on Sabine and Ezra. Obviously this is just the first half of the season, and I'm sure that the latter half will be different, but it definitely doesn't feel like we're about to say goodbye to these characters yet.
     
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    I understand your feeling. However, from a storytelling perspective, you do not want to end character arcs too early. For example, Zeb's arc more or less ended when he brought his people to Lirasan (the new home world for the Lasat). Since then, he has had no character development and has been (in my opinion) the least interesting character. The story lines of the other main characters will end in the last two episodes.

    However, I am going to contradict myself here. I feel that Kanan's story might end sooner. I feel that they are setting up Kanan's death. He will sacrifice himself to save Hera. How the other members of the Ghost crew will deal with this loss might be very interesting to see.
     
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    That's fair- I definitely don't want them to wrap up things too early, at least for the core characters.

    I don't know, there's just some intangible unrest I have with the series right now. It's probably not even fair- I'm partially judging what the series is against what I want it to be. Obviously all I can do is wait for the finale and hope it's a good one. :)
     
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    I think Kanan will die. But I would like Ezra to end up in some sort of mystical space by the end of the series. Send him to some sort of Mortis-type realm. 1) it's a chance to expand the mythos, 2) little Timmy doesn't have to ask his mom why the mean disney people killed Ezra, 3) then Luke would still be the only Jedi around during the OT, and 4) you could still bring Ezra back in a future animation project.
     
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