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Episode IX Title Speculation

Discussion in 'Star Wars: The Rise of Skywalker' started by adamclark83, Dec 30, 2015.

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    The title will be Star Wars.

    The Subtitle will be based on the plot of the film, which currently is unknown.

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    It's the last episode of the trilogy so it needs to reflect its outcome.

    Revenge of the Sith and Return of the Jedi just did that.

    in Episode 3: The Sith came back for revenge and purged the jedi
    in Episode 4: Vader came back to the light hence the Return (so is Luke is coming back to save him)

    The main question is: What will be the big conclusion from this trilogy?

    I think what lies behind it since the start is Force searches its balance. It awakens in 7 and plays in duality and tries to find its balance with Rey & Kylo.

    My guess is it will be resolved at the end of the next episode.

    Hence my guess is:

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    The title will reflect the balance that the Force will ultimately reach but also the rebuilding of the Rebellion to balance the "force" to face the First Order or New Empire whatever it is called in 9.
     
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    This was the rumoured title for Episode 1, some 20 (twenty !!!!) years ago.

    I like your thinking though !
     
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    Hahaha, yes I remembered speculating on that one back in the days (that and Children of the Force).

    But, they like recycling old ideas (Revenge of the Sith, The Last Jedi).

    I just think this one just sits well now.
    I just think this time it will revolve around:

    - The Force finding its balance.
    - The Rebellion getting rebuild to face the new Empire.
    - The Legacy of the Skywalker family being resolved, the legacy of Anakin Skywalker... (Heir to Skywalker, Heir to the Chosen One, Legacy of Skywalker, Legacy of the Force)
    - The discovery of what's beyond the universe the characters know about.


    Sometimes, the title lays in the middle of the opening crawl of the previous episode. (A Spark of Hope)



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    I'm not sure if this title has been posted yet.

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    It has been posted and it's one of the most popular titles on the internet right now. I would like "A / The New Order" very much because it would refer to the Jedi Order and the FO lead by Kylo Ren.
     
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    Star Wars
    Episode IX

    the wrath of Skywalker ..

    Luke Skywalker has been annialated by the evil episode VIII leader Rian Johnson .. In the force ghost realm Skywalker is plotting against Johnson desperatly trying find a way back to the land of the living so he can stop the evil script writer who is in the process of developing a new Star Wars trilogy :p:D ..
     
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    Star Wars Force Ghost
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    See I'm not so sure. I think 'Balance Of The Force' is too conclusive. I know it's the final trilogy of the three trilogies, but I tend to think this trilogy is actually meant to open up a new era and not end one. That title suggests stability and a return to 'peace', but Star Wars is probably going to work 'best' if we have a small band of freedom fighters in an ongoing rebelling against a tyrannical Empire for some time yet, with 'Jedi' against 'Sith' (or 'Knights Of Ren'). Otherwise it's just back to square one again. I suspect Disney won't want to conclude that avenue so soon..

    I'm even less certain of 'The New Order' as a title for a Disney Star Wars film.

    I'd rule it out purely on the basis that 'The New Order' was also the name of Nazi Germany's political ideals.
     
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    @Too Bob Bit The Empire and The First Order are without a doubt based on nazi germany. A new order - the first order ect. etc..


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    Oh for sure, I have no doubt about that either and was going to mention it in my post but tried to keep it short! Those scenes in TFA are straight from a Nuremberg Rally without question.

    But firstly, the First Order are course the bad guys and, like the Empire before them, are in part a direct analogy of the Nazis so the name is more fitting.

    However, secondly, even they have not been directly called 'The New Order'. The name 'First Order' has been chosen, to infer the connection rather than directly use it and state it, which is maybe significant.

    Thirdly, 'First Order' is used only 'in-movie' so far, not as part of an episode title (although that may still come and I don't see why not).

    But to literally use the phrase 'The New Order' itself in the title of a movie is a different kettle of fish I think, and an association that the film makers might want to avoid.

    At the very least, I think it is a discussion that would be had at Disney if 'The New Order' came up as a possible title. I suspect they would veto it.

    Also, I think if the Jedi of the PT era are considered to have become stagnant, out of touch, self-serving and to have turned to the dark side themselves to some degree, then I'm not sure referring to them directly as a 'new order' and the implications that title has would be the right move (let's not forget that the Jedi of old took children from their parents and raised them in servitude to the Jedi, not too unlike the 'modern' First Order does with their troopers)

    I appreciate however that the title itself could not be specifically about the 'return of the jedi' (plural) but about all parties, good and evil, in a letting go of the past and moving on from it sort of way.

    I just don't see what maybe considered the final film in the trilogy of trilogies being titled something with that potential connotation.
     
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    --- Double Post Merged, Aug 17, 2018, Original Post Date: Aug 17, 2018 ---
    For some reason, hearing Rey in TLJ say Kylo was "The Last Hope" really stuck out to me! anyone else?
    ??
     
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    Very well said. You make good points. I'm going more in the direction of an entirely new type of arrangement of force sensitive beings or order of the force. However I see what you mean about order referring to the jedi. It does hearken to the jedi order. Perhaps having any type of order revolving around the force is part of the problem in the first place I don't know. Just trying to keep an open mind here lol. I don't know where they will go with it. I'm hoping it's along the lines of individuals embracing the force as a whole.
     
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    I don't know. I agree with @NinjaRen - I doubt they will use the same term twice in one trilogy. "The Last Jedi" followed by "The Last Hope"? I don't see that happening.

    Up until the TLJ, the same key terms hadn't been used twice throughout the whole saga. We had 'The Empire Strikes Back', so there was no "Rise Of The Empire" for instance in the PT. The latest trilogy breaks that tradition with TLJ, but I think at the very least the tradition would remain within the context of this new trilogy. So I don't expect 'The Force' or 'The Jedi' (Or 'The Last' :p ) to be used again. 'The Force Awakens' is also the first time 'The Force' has appeared in a title - good going for a film series where the Force plays a bit part in all of them!

    What with it being the finale, I also expect the title to be something positive, and 'The Last' has a hint of negativity, even if followed by 'Hope' (although I do like the juxtaposition, and might make sense if this trilogy is to be the beginning of a new era and not the end of one).

    Whatever they come up with, I hope it'll be something we didn't think of :)
     
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    And just like that, it's the rumored title haha.
     
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    I'd like to see it be something a bit more obscure maybe. Something that perhaps seems a bit un-star wars, that doesn't directly relate to terms from SW lore that we're already familiar with, but something in the tradition of space opera/pulp sci-fi series.

    Something not too unlike 'The Phantom Menace' maybe. Nobody at the time thought that sounded like a Star Wars 'title'. And even 'A New Hope' fits outside those kind of 'Star Wars-y' titles really (unlike the various novels with titles like "Heir To The Empire", "Dark Force Rising" etc, which captured that corner of our minds that says 'this is Star Wars').

    It would also kind of be an inversion of the structure - 'TPM' and 'ANH' are the first episodes, followed by two episodes with words from SW lore, like 'Clones', 'Sith', 'Empire' and 'Jedi'.

    Might be good to see it the other way around now, with the non-lore title featured on the last film. Might book-end the whole saga nicely too.
     
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    The Force Awakens The Last Jedi Through The Darkness

    => Again referring to Ben Solo :p
     
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