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SPECULATION Episode VIII Expectations: Pleasant Surprises or Disappointments

Discussion in 'Star Wars: The Last Jedi' started by JediMasterRobert, Feb 23, 2016.

  1. JediMasterRobert

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    Constructive speculation has always been one of the funnest and educational things about Star Wars, as we work out theories, connect characters and events, and provide compelling arguments as to how and why various things might be in the next installment.

    Given all the possibilities Episode VIII may or may not deliver, it is indeed an exciting time to be a Star Wars fan.

    But there's another aspect to this which eventually comes into play as details slowly become revealed up until the official film release: the hopes and expectations we form and tend to hold tightly to as fans.

    Many of us have been fans of Star Wars since the earliest days, and that has informed many of our opinions and inclinations over the years. This, of course, continues into the present Sequel Trilogy.

    Also, new fans to Star Wars are quickly discovering what an amazing and overwhelmingly positive phenomenon Star Wars fandom can be like, in this regard.

    So I'm hoping, in this thread, we could constructively discuss:
    • things we might possibly be pleasantly surprised by in Episode VIII, once it officially debuts
    • things we might be disappointed to learn about or to not see in this story
    -- all with a view towards coming to terms with our own hopes and expectations in a friendly and positive way that will still allow us to adjust and enjoy the film in its final form.

    I will begin with some of my own hopes and pleasant surprises possibly to be revealed in Episode VIII:
    • Luke Skywalker has a central role.
    • Luke had a wife -- and we get to meet/see/hear her.
    • Rey discovers she had a family after all.
    • We get to see Luke and Rey train.
    • We get to see Ben/Kylo train.
    • Luke's uncharacteristic disappearance is explained and fully justified.
    • Leia will have a prominent role and can tap into the Force at a pivotal moment.
    • A revelation about Han will be made to help us understand why he was away.
    • Han and Leia (and possibly Ben) will have a flashback scene.
    • Ben Solo continues to experience mixed feelings and pulls toward the Light.
    • Finn is Force sensitive.
    • Rey's origin is quickly and neatly resolved so we can get on with her larger story.
    • Snoke's identity and agenda will be revealed, and it will be epic, as many fans hoped for.
    • We will meet the Knights of Ren and/or learn about them.
    • We will get to see and/or learn about the first Jedi Temple.

    Some things I would consider possible disappointments:
    • Poe and Finn have fairly minimal roles. Or either dies.
    • C-3PO and R2-D2 have less scenes than BB-8.
    • Captain Phasma has more screen time, but it is used to little effect.
    • New characters are unnecessarily introduced, claiming minutes which could have been better invested in other characters.
    • Leia is once again shoved to the sidelines.
    • Luke Skywalker has a minimal role and/or dies in Episode VIII.
    • Luke left simply because he was scared or intimidated or sad.
    • Snoke's agenda and backstory is left undefined, or we are merely asked to accept him as the "new bad guy."
    • Chewbacca dies.
    • The Force is approached more scientifically than mystically.
    • We learn nothing more about Maz Kanata (or hear nothing more from her)

    As we all know, some things can be more difficult to accept or expect than others, since these things are substantially influenced by our knowledge, experiences, perceptions, imaginings, tolerance, and preferences.

    Whatever qualifies one plot point as a potential "pleasant surprise" or a "disappointment" is decidedly subjective in most cases: one fan might be "okay" with Poe or Finn having their character arcs ended or not having a certain character further defined (e.g. Boba Fett), whereas others might be sad if Luke or Leia were to perish early and/or without very good cause other than to clear the stage for new characters.

    I think it's important and beneficial to acknowledge and to begin to come to terms with those hopes and expectations.

    It's almost a safe bet that something in Episode VIII will pleasantly surprise even some of the most hardcore fans, just as it's highly likely certain things might disappoint some of us.

    Ultimately, most of us simply want Episode VIII to be the very best Star Wars film it can be, given all that has preceded it.

    And I think that can happen. I think the fans do matter and are considered. And I do have faith in the storytellers and am very hopeful that Episode VIII will have many more pleasant surprises than disappointments.

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    I agree with most of the points you made and if I could add to that, it would be Rey and Kylo's story to be further explored in depth. I hope we'll see more of the dark and light conflict between the two and it'll be interesting what the outcome would lead them in the end that could only be their undoing...

    Now that I allowed TFA to sink in since the last time I saw it, the story is essentially Rey's and Kylo's as they become intertwined that leads both of them to come to terms of their existence after they first meet face to face in the forest.
     
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    Thanks, Ulic_Korien.

    I've considered some more possible "pleasant surprises":
    • An appearance by Obi-Wan Kenobi and/or Yoda
    • Getting to watch Rey constructing her own lightsaber (single or double-bladed)
    • getting to see some of the Unknown Regions area of the galaxy
    • We get to Snoke not merely as a hologram but "in person."
    • Han leaving a message behind for Leia, so he could say goodbye to her and possibly tell her whatever he was meaning to say "for the longest time" in the novelization
    • more star systems realize Leia was right in forming the Resistance and back her formally.
    • Luke and Leia get to see each other again.
    • Leia gets to appeal to her son Ben, reinforcing what Han had told him earlier, and keeping the hope alive that he could still come back home, that it's not too late.

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    i am okay with whatever happens as long as it's well-written and feels authentic/organic.

    that said, my biggest disappointments could be:
    • Luke comes back kicking ass and taking names and raining hellfire.
    • Rey as Luke's sidekick (worse yet, his daughter-sidekick).
    • Kylo Ren becomes a mustache-twirling irredeemable bad guy (he can be awful, but they better not have put us through all that tortured conflict for nothing).
    • BDT turns out to be hideously miscast.
    • New characters are unnecessarily introduced, claiming minutes which could have been better invested in other characters.
    • Snoke. having to look at his beady-eyed little fish face. but i guess that's unavoidable.
    • needlessly dead heroes.
    my biggest joys would be:
    • big ensemble action with Rey, Chewie, Finn, and Poe.
    • better use of Phasma.
    • Snoke is a real man and not a toilet-squatting cartoon.
    • Kylo Ren tells Snoke where to stick it (c'mon Ben: you can do this!).
    • reunions!
      • Leia and Luke reunion.
      • Rey and Kylon Ren reunion (with Rey not faring so well this time).
      • Luke and Ben reunion.
      • Ben and Leia reunion (i'm okay if this goes badly for the moment, but i want to see it happen sooner than later).
    • no more dead heroes.
    i know i'm probably in the minority, but i don't really want to see long training montages or deep discussions about building lightsabers or the Force or any of that.
    i like the mysterious stuff to be mostly mysterious.
     
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    Thank you, FN-3263827, for the great response!

    The first point made me laugh so loud! :D

    And for the second point: yes, I'd love that.

    Snoke already called Kylo weak, and elaborated on that in the novelization. Hopefully Ben can wake up before it's too late.

    Yes, please, no more.

    Me, too. Part of me wants to know the entire story behind the Cave on Dagobah, and the other half wants its mysteries preserved.

    I think there are ways there can be comments made or actions taken which reveal new aspects of the Force while also generating new questions, such as Kylo Ren's ability to stop a laser bolt or to freeze people, the very prospect of there being a "first Jedi Temple," Maz Kanata, Rey's fast-track to the Force.

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    it's clear on the bridge that somewhere in there he knows.
    he just needs the confidence to fight back. if only there was someone who could help him with that.
    not an authority figure, though...a peer...someone he admires and relates to...someone emotionally and mentally stronger than him...

    ...if ony there was a character like that in this story. hmmm...

    i agree! i like the little philosophical moments and all the constructs. i just don't want stuff explained. we don't need it and it binds the Force to a specific way of thinking about it, which is, to my thinking, not what makes Star Wars so phenomenally accessible to all cultures and creeds and orientations.

    keep it loose, Disney. loose is inclusive.
     
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    Spot on. Both of your posts are like what I would have posted so no need for me to post the exact same thing. Thanks guys. :) Much appreciated.

    as for Ben needing the confidence to fight back and having someone to help him....I say that someone should be Rey.
     
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    I hope Luke's involvement doesn't overshadow the new cast. I'd like to see a demonstration of the power he's achieved, but somehow done in a way in which we don't expect him to be a safety net for the new heroes. I hope Luke alludes to recent communions with Yoda/Ben/Anakin even if we don't actually see their Force ghosts.

    I would like to see Finn's expression as he comes to realize he is capable of commanding the Force. It would be good to see Maz and/or Leia train him in using the Force (not initially trained to be a Jedi). I'd also like to see his lightsaber proficiency go way up and get some redemptive wins (Nines, a KoR or two) and make his next encounter with Kylo a much better fight (win or lose).

    I hope they don't follow the ESB template as far as splitting up the trio for acts 2 and 3. Instead, they are split in the first and more or less together in 2 and 3.
     
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    Yes, I agree!

    Let there be many wonderful parallels (and "rhymes"), some direct allusions and some visual callbacks, but giving the story an overall less predictable / more unique pattern would be best, I think, even though The Empire Strikes Back was so wonderfully constructed.

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    I agree with both of these points:

    1. I believe Luke will be a major part of "the solution," but certainly not the sole solution.

    I think the combined danger of The First Order, Snoke, The Knights of Ren, and Kylo Ren needs to be defined enough so we can appreciate what Luke, Rey, and the others are truly up against -- possibly something so vast and beyond any single one of their abilities to overcome that it would take nothing less than their combined strength and faith in the Force to surmount.

    2. I think it would be helpful and interesting to see Obi-Wan Kenobi, Yoda, and possibly even Anakin on screen, or to at least hear them, if only they are there to bid Luke goodbye and leave him with some last tidbit of wisdom or well wishing, so that we know the solution to the plot complications presented in this new trilogy are not going to arrive deus ex machina style from the Netherworld of the Force.

    That would be quite a pleasant surprise to acknowledge their presence and to meet them one last time.

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    I'd like to personally see a deeper understanding of the Force in Reys training like perhaps:

    • Have Luke and Rey meditate together perhaps having the same Force Vision, then afterwards, when she's terrified about what she saw (like we saw in TFA) have him explain the vision to her, and how she should see and interpret the sights which will give her a great peace and calming effect.
    • I'd like to see a scene with Rey sitting in meditation overlooking the sea with Luke nearby as she "Listens to the Universe" and slowly opens her eyes at the end of the session where we see that she has full (or as much as can be) understanding of the Force and we know that she will be a great "Jedi Master" when she grows up...so to speak.
    Then:
    • Kylo and Rey face each other again, and see the look on his face when he realizes (EPIPHANY) that she's his family....and realizing HOW she's related...no dialog required.
    • LANDO CALRISSIAN!
    • Anakin speaking to Kylo.
    • MARA JADE...or her placeholder as Luke's wife. Remember, we don't know if Luke is alone on Ach-to....we just assume it. How about a sudden emergence of her (without warning) in the scene...SURPISE!!
    • Return (briefly) to Tatooine for Luke (with Rey accompanying him) as a "This is where we came from"....visiting the graves of their family.
    • What remains of the Jedi Temple on Coruscant, and perhaps how it's being used today in a brief scene.
    • Holocrons
    • A possible quiet emergence of other (or another...singular) Jedi that escaped Order 66 (or maybe in Ep. IX).
    • Captain Phasma (helmet off) questioning where her loyalty allegiange lies...a moral struggle.
     
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    GREAT suggestions!

    It would be awesome if Luke found the Great Holocron (http://starwars.wikia.com/wiki/Great_Holocron) and absorbed much or most of its wisdom of the ages.

    One thing I thought about when I read this suggestion (which I love) is, just after there are a few words exchanged between Luke and Rey, perhaps there's a voice calling out from a cave, "Luuuuuuuke. Luuuuke," (Like Aunt Beru in A New Hope), and then she comes out to see what's taking him so long to respond.

    Then Rey turns to her, senses it, as does Luke's wife, and they rush to each other and embrace.

    "Kira -- we thought we lost you forever," Luke's wife, sobbing, tells Rey.

    "Never. Every day... I never... never stopped believing... mother," Rey tearfully replies.

    "So hope lives on, after all," Luke says, smiling with tears in his eyes, as they all hug.

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    My main worries and disappointments:
    • The character of Han Solo dominating the movie from beyond the grave, being constantly referenced by everybody, so that the fans don't have to come to terms with the fact that the franchise is moving on.
    • Artoo's memory getting wiped so he can "bond" with the new generation.
    • Jedi Luke being a "total badass" and violent with his lightsaber, because that's the kind of entertainment the producers may think modern audiences want.
    • Yet another round of the omnipotent evil master (Snoke) who only talks, and a brainwashed apprentice (Kylo) doing his bidding. Now we've had three Death Stars and three times (ROTS, ANH, ROTJ) of Vader not calling the shots in his own villainous life. Can we get something really intimidating next time?
    • Hux being turned into a background character.
    • Luke being portrayed as mentally unstable. That would really hurt me.
    My main hopes and pleasant surprises:
    • A narrative that puts the Jedi in a historically larger perspective than the prequel tidbit, reminding the audience that the original Jedi Order and their value system is supposedly a thousand generations (!) old, far older than any political movement and organisation they would later support and serve, and far older than any Dark Side order.
    • Kylo Ren as a true villain-in-the-making, being driven further towards the dark side because light-side characters before and during TFA have constantly antagonized him.
    • Kylo Ren breaking with Snoke between TFA and episode VIII, just like he broke with Luke before TFA
    • Leia for once getting lines in which she talks about her personal motivations in life.
    • Luke Skywalker will not pick up his lightsaber again after having thrown it away in ROTJ. He doesn't need a saber anymore.
    • A beautiful tie-in with the Clone Wars and Rebels animation series, providing a neat explanation for most of the mysteries in TFA (like the Knights of Ren being a continuation of the Inquisitors, who are themselves defected Jedi Temple Guards)
    • The conflict between Jedi and First Order explained as competition for kyber crystals as long as both sides demand weapons
    • One (please!) space battle between the New Republic fleet and the First Order fleet with their kyber crystal weapons!
    --- Double Post Merged, Feb 23, 2016, Original Post Date: Feb 23, 2016 ---
    I'll be thrilled to finally see holocrons! That's a must.
     
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    Such excellent points, timonder!

    I think, even if he was not mentioned or shown on screen, the memory of Han Solo will haunt Episode VIII for many of us.

    R2 absolutely cannot be wiped.

    R2-D2 was, in fact, originally the one surviving character who, much later, relates the entirety of the saga of Star Wars of a Keeper of the Whills: http://starwars.wikia.com/wiki/Keeper_of_the_Whills

    Luke Skywalker being utterly violent would be a serious disappointment for me. He needs to be the most sensible one of them all, knowing the "eye for an eye" practice has only perpetuated the cycle of suffering. I prefer him to be a bringer of peace with so much command of the Force and so much self-control he does not have to fight.

    Your point about Snoke is excellent as well. Any further commands from a throne, strictly by way of hologram, can make Snoke look weaker and less intimidating.

    Luke being mentally unstable would just be another one of those things that would be way out of character for Luke, and it should not be done. He can be serious, keeping his anger in check, but I want him above all to lead by example and refuse the Dark Side once again, and, in so doing that, reduce the Dark Side to nothingness because it needs conflict to sustain itself.

    Luke could even have some initial reservations at training Rey, given what happened to Ben, but I'm hoping he's coming out of his seemingly voluntary exile with a renewed sense of purpose and strength to do what must be done to help Rey, Leia, and the rest restore peace to the galaxy.

    One "pleasant surprise" I might like to see, in this regard, is Rey, going into her first combat against enemies with Luke, ignites her lightsaber but then looks at Luke quizzically.

    "Well? I thought you said we're doing this together. Where's your lightsaber?"

    Luke smiles, pulls back his hood, steps to the threshold of a spacecraft, and just before he jumps down into the combat zone, he turns and confidently informs Rey, "I don't need one."

    You could just imagine Rey's incredulous expression at that point. "Seriously?!" as she looks down, sees Luke deflecting lasers and sweeping aside Stormtroopers, and joins him as he paces forward steadily and unafraid, armed only with the Force itself.

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    Honestly, the best thing to do is don't hope to see certain plot points or character arcs.

    I went to TFA wanting to see a bad ass Luke, Han & Leia married a reunion of the 3 at the end of the movie.

    None of that happened and......I loved the movie! I love the ending with Luke and Rey and the death of Han is much needed dramatic punch that lacked in the PT.
     
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    Good point, Jedi77-83.

    I tend to think it's probably the "best" thing to do is to go in with no expectations and hoping only to be entertained at best.

    I can put myself into "let's wait and see what happens" mindset. I did that, spoiler-free, with The Force Awakens, and that was fine, even though at first I could not believe Luke had no lines or action.

    I would be very disappointed if Luke had no lines and no action in Episode VIII, but I doubt that will be a real concern, as Luke must be seen and must act now, given how Episode VII centered on the search for him.

    Knowing now what was done with Episode VII does contribute to certain hopes and specific preferences.

    Coming to terms with that and preparing for the inevitable letdowns is why I established this thread:

    so people could constructively discuss what they would find surprising or sad, doing that with some shared awareness of the letdowns likely to exist in Episode VIII based on our respective experiences and various expectations with Episode VII.

    (That, and I'm somewhat concerned for master_shaitan's refrigerator. :))

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    The ST allows us to see the story play out in a way that you don't need to therorize because the story is moving forward.

    The PT was ALL about wanting to see how certain things happened, so you couldn't help but think about them.

    I think back to ESB in 1980 and had no idea where things were going, and I'm doing that with Episode 8 too.
     
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    There's really only one thing that I have on my list.
    I want to see the Knights of Ren, I want to learn all about this new group in Star Wars history.

    I think all the things that would disappoint me would be just basic things that would make any movie bad (i.e. bad plotting or writing mostly)
     
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    Pleasant Surprises:
    • A reunion between Luke and Leia - I need to know what's happened between these two!(luke)(leia)
    • We find out who Supreme Leader Snoke really is - I've been a strong believer that he has been Darth Plagueis for a long time
    • Leia using the Force in any kind of capacity, either large or small
    • Romance
    • Coruscant - got to be one of my favourite planets from Star Wars
    • I need more Phasma in my life

    Disappointments:

    • Snoke turns out to be someone completely unrelated to anything
    • Luke has another exceptionally small part in the film
    • If the destruction of the New Republic is just not even mentioned
    • If Rey turns out to be an Obi-Wan relative
     
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    I'd go for most of that, except for lando. And I could really just take it or leave it with him. He never grabbed me like the other charters did.
     
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