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Evidence of Plagueis theory, or Story Group trolling?

Discussion in 'Star Wars: The Rise of Skywalker' started by Morgan Joylighter, May 10, 2019.

  1. Morgan Joylighter

    Morgan Joylighter Rebelscum

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    The following is a quote from Claudia Gray's new novel Master and Apprentice about Qui-Gon and Obi-Wan. Prophecy is one of the primary themes of the story and a few old Jedi prophecies are recorded in the book, including the one about the Chosen One. When I heard this quote it seemed to fit perfectly with the idea that Darth Plagueis learned to live on through the bodies of apprentices. When you combine this with the apparent return of Palpatine in TROS, it certainly seems to fit. But the Story Group is of course aware of these theories, so are they (or Claudia Gray herself) just trolling the Plagueis believers by putting little nuggets of info like this out there? Just wondering if anyone else noticed this or thought the same thing. If this would be better in another forum section please move it, I don't post here much.

    "I don’t know that he is, Qui-Gon wanted to say. The holocron of prophecies had not gone back to the Archives in weeks. Dooku studied it constantly, both with Qui-Gon and without. Although Qui-Gon still liked coming up with theories about how past historical events might have fulfilled certain Masters’ prophetic visions, Dooku’s fascination was all for the future. One prophecy in particular occupied him more than any other: He who learns to conquer death will through his greatest student live again."
    If this is foreshadowing a plot point in Episode IX then maybe Plagueis would be "he who learns to conquer death" and Palpatine would be "his greatest student".
     
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    This could be about Palpatine conquering death through Vader.
     
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    Think this also could be foreshadowing about Qui Gon conquering death when he learns to communicate from the beyond.
     
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    Ok am gonna be controversial here . This is Star Wars where things like this are more complex and take on more than one meaning just like the film titles . Yes I agree on the surface it looks like it’s palpatine living through Vader or plagueis living through Palpatine but am constantly looking out for twists with Star Wars so to be honest it could be anyone - Luke and Ben ? Ben and Rey ? Vader and Ben ?(some kind of resurrection lord Momin style like in the Vader comics ?). For all we know it’s someone we haven’t even thought about or a new character in Rise of Skywalker. In the TLJ visual dictionary /encyclopaedia under Snoke’s entry it talks about his other apprentice- so question is who was it ? Another mystery box. :eek::confused:
     
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    The simplest explanation here seems to be that Claudia Gray offers, in her writing, one (among several other hinted at) prophecy that could, without necessarily having to (i.e. it could be irrelevant), explain one avenue for Darth Plagueis or Palpatine to survive death through their apprentice, and that the Story Group simply did not veto against it. That Gray wrote this prophecy, and that she has Dooku being obsessed with it, does not make it an established meta-plot fact central to the upcoming Saga finale. No, it only means that this specific prophecy (among others) exists in canon, and if several prophecies exists the majority are likely to be untrue. Of course, the Story Group COULD adopt this prophecy for major stories at some point, but it seems unlikely that they have willingly resolved the mystery of Palpatine in TRoS with a throwaway line in a novel.

    That said, it's cool stuff (pwned)
     
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    It would seem strange to talk about prophecies like this one especially with a certain Sith Lord returning. The movie goers still have have the infamous tragedy of Darth Plagueis while book readers get a bit more added context. They wouldn't have to know that throw away line from a book.
     
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    It is possible when Palpatine said to Anakin that Plagueis taught him everything he knew then killed him he meant it. Most of what people wanted with Plagueis including myself we might actually get, in the form of Palpatine. Who continues to be the Phantom Menace it seems.
     
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