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SPECULATION Ezra Bridger and Galen Marek, Truth and Legend

Discussion in 'Star Wars: Rebels' started by Darth Malkovich, Aug 9, 2016.

  1. Darth Malkovich

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    "There's always a bit of truth in legends" - Ahsoka Tano

    Much of the legends stuff that is brought into canon has been done in such a way that the legends version can be seen as a misremembered version of the truth. The timeline of rebels is in and around the time of the legends game, the force unleashed. We know Galen Marek aka Starkiller was the secret apprentice of Vader who was tasked with starting a rebellion to distract Palpatine from Vader's scheme to assassinate him.

    In Rebels, Ezra could become Maul's secret apprentice, Maul encouraging him with his rebel work to create problems for Palpatine while he plots to assasinate him. What if Ezra takes the secret name Starkiller during this period, and sets up the Knights of Ren - hence Starkiller base was named after him?

    Ezra's new look certainly lends to the theory as does the fact that both characters were orphans. I'm not saying they are exactly the same character btw - just that they are Legend's/Canon counterparts and that it could give a clue to Ezra's future.
     
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    I may not be the most qualified to reply, as I have little knowledge of Marek, but I like the idea. I would prefer that Vader took him in apprentice, but then that would affect ANH in the same way Ahsoka affected ROTS. Too much explanation needed and none to be found. Overall, I'm beginning to warm up to the idea of Ezra turning to the dark side.
     
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    Interesting theory, and a great one to boot! I can't complain about it at all. You've already got the Rahm Kota - Kanan comparisons, so this would be the missing link. Bravo!
     
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    Their encounter would be something but right now Sam is playing Maul.
     
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    I think its an interesting idea and I would love to see Ezra really become MY APPRENTICE. I just have a really hard time believing Ezra will have anything to do with starting the Knights of Ren. Because from what I can tell: the First Order worships the empire, the Knights of Ren work with the First Order and the one thing Ezra truly hates is the Empire. IMO that can't add up to Ezra starting the Knights of Ren.
     
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    Ah yes, but you know where hate leads ;)
     
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    I personally think the Knights of Ren will have their own history, from perhaps a separate part of the Galaxy. It may connect to the Sith or Jedi, but in the distant past. I have always believed, and still believe that the cast of Rebels, barring perhaps one exception, will not survive the series. Ezra in particular. Just like I don't believe that the cast of Rogue One will survive either. They will sacrifice themselves to the mission.

    I'm not opposed to an Ezra connection, and I think Ezra is a great tool to discover more about the history between the Sith and the Jedi, but in the end he is a good guy, doing the wrong things for the right reasons. He will see the light and probably die because of it.
     
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    That scenario still sounds an awful lot like Galen Marek! I wasn't suggesting that Ezra survives, but that he perhaps becomes Starkiller. I think his return to the light would be essential to close his story arc but that he will die in the act and ends up revered by people on both sides.
     
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    I can see where you're coming from, and it does seem that way. I think, similar to Galen, he will be consumed by the Dark Side but as an enemy to the Empire. He could be Maul's apprentice for a time. Ultimately I don't expect Ezra to remain with the Dark Side. Using the Dark Side, in Ezra's opinion, will give him a fighting chance at defeating Vader. Which, as we all know, is impossible and extremely unlikely. When he loses to Vader, again, he will realize learning how to wield the Dark Side was pointless. Could he kill Maul? With Kanan 'Daredeviling' him off the side of the Malachor Sith Temple, I don't think it could get any more embarrassing for the character than being killed by Ezra.
     
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    You mean kinda like a Star Wars Mandela Effect?
     
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    I don't think this is quite the same. This is often very old material that history or the Star Wars historians are unsure of exactly how it went down. So the common telling of the story in popular culture might not be the exact truth.
    I mean to use an example, we know there was a Peloponnesian war, but the specifics that are often told about the war might not conform to its exact historical facts.
    in a Mandela effect the person who actually lived an event remembers the event incorrectly.

    This is how I always thought they would do it. This gives them the flexibility to change the Legends material to conform to their new universe without killing off all the characters. Obviously this applies more to old republic era stuff than post Jedi stuff most of which has to be discarded because it directly contradicts the story they are telling.
     
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    I know, it was a throwaway comment meaning from the point of view of the characters in the Star Wars universe, not us or the SW historians. Thought I'd clarify that. BTW as a test for the Mandela effect nonsense how many people were in JFK's limo on Deeley Plaza?
     
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    Newbie here but felt like this subject has come up a lot and wanted to chip in:
    One thing and I see this a lot, is that people play the simpoe duality of the subject of where Ezra's going. There's always a third party option, a third way. These are the paths that seeming Cade Skywalker(Luke's great-grandson from the Dark Horse comics), Maul, the Nightsister and in some ways Ahsoka took. I think Ezra will take that "third option" path and thus why he's no longer considered a Jedi and not brought up by Yoda.

    Now, I am of the belief that there will be some very "TFU" storyline elements going on especially as we see the Phoenix who we know becomes the rebel's official symbol all around this show in Sabine's graffiti. However I don't want to see Ezra to be the New Canon's version of Galen (much like for better or worse Kylo is the Canon's version of Ceadus). Now to explain why is simply, I'd like to think that we don't need to condense things like that, especially as I feel like the inclusion of the real Galen can make an interesting storyline in itself. Which is where I get to put on my theory hat:

    I'd personally like to see something of a hybrid of the game storyline as well as the on with the ghost team taking on the role of Kota's group (and of course Kanan being Kota's canon stand in) and introducing Galen (voice by Witter) as the newest and final Inquisitor(answering why there's no more after him) along with Juno & PROXY as his pilot and trainer respectively. Have being with them being rivals at first until Galen becomes disillusioned with the Empire and he along with Juno and Proxy Join the Rebels, especially the Ghost. Then create a season long arc that covers the events of TFU but with Ezra and Galen becoming like brothers under Kanan's training ending with Kanan and Galen sacrificing themselves to save the Ghost Crew from Vader after Ezra is hurt by Vader (let's say he loses a limb in the style of Anakin and Luke). Then we get a season ending teaser of Vader looking over the bodies, when out from the Shadows steps a hooded figure that unveils itself as the a clone of Galen aka The "true" Starkiller that is loyal to Vader. This can lead into a season long arc as Ezra thinks Galen betrayed them and killed Kanan ending with a Mustafar-esqe stand off between the two. But before that point you can even incorporate new elements of dynamic between Galen, Proxy and Juno with the rest of the crew with Juno being seen as the "Fun aunt" to Hera's "Strict mom" and Proxy seen as the 3P0 to Chopper's R2.

    Sorry about the elaborate ranty bits I'd have made a separate topic but since I'm so new I can't.
     
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