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SPOILER Fate of our Rogue One crew!

Discussion in 'Rogue One' started by Lord Revanous, Dec 16, 2016.

  1. Bargwill Tomder

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    Why? Because you want to see that? I don't really see a way that makes sense in the storyline, in which Vader isn't really a main character.

    Not really. It's the only SW movie so far that isn't to at least some degree about Vader. Beyond your own preferences, how is this a problem?

    So basically, you wanted this movie to rehash all the Jedi movies it seems.

    To which I ask, does there need to be one? You could certainly say The Empire, of which all three baddies were representatives at varying levels.
     
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  2. Darth Basin The Greatest

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    Vader was project manager on DS-2. Does he suck? :D
     
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    HAHAHA! Well he's sorta the consultant brought in because the in-house guy messed it up. :)


    "We shall double our efforts!" (In perfect space British)

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    Yeah, because I want to see that. This is a forum, you post opinions and ideas... I think you're narrowing on the problem with this film: "...in which Vader isn't really a main character." Why IS Vader in this film? "Because it's cool and he chopped some dudez up bro!"

    Secondly, then why is Chirrut in the story? What is his purpose? Why do we care about his character?

    Rehash: No.

    Antagonist: Well, there doesn't HAVE to be one if you don't want a story.... I suppose we could go with "Star Wars: The reality show" or something. (Sarcasm: OFF)

    Look, a story without an "antagonistic theme" is a story with "no conflict." Conflict drives plot. Without plot, you have a character study. Without conflict, the character has no reason to change, grow, or develop, so there's not much to study. I've seen lots of no-antagonist stories. The trick is to find out what is interesting in the story, if it isn't overt conflict. Is Star Wars a conflict story??? :rolleyes:

    What could you write about without any conflict between characters occurring?

    Waaaaaait. Are you one of the writers for RO? :D
     
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    I actually really liked how most of the new characters were on the planet's surface, while the cameos were in space, literally separated by a planetary shield. Of course Vader would be in space with the other cameos, the old cast didn't have a say in the fight on the ground. Then, there's a quite literal passing of the baton- I think it was well done.


    Also, how did this:
    Transition to this:

    Just because someone disagrees with you, you accuse them of being one of the writers?
    Sorry, but Rogue One is sitting at an 84% critic rating on RT, even higher for audiences. The fact that someone would only defend the film because they are a writer is absolutely laughable.
     
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    A joke. It's called a joke. See sometimes you say or write something with the opposite meaning and put something ironic..... forget it.
     
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    Fair enough, sarcasm can be hard to detect on the internets.
     
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    As far as Chirrut and Baze's deaths...I felt I needed a second viewing to give a full answer. (In fact, I needed a second viewing to appreciate Chirrut as a person instead of just "the blind guy who was awesome with the stick." I realized that he and Jyn had connected more than I noticed the first time around, probably because of their respect for the Force. I felt I would have been friends with Chirrut. :)) I always felt Baze would go out in a, well, baze of glory, but I thought Chirrut's death with Baze holding his hand and praying with him was very touching--especially when it led, apparently to Baze having his faith restored.
     
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