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Forbes article about the differences between critic and audiences score

Discussion in 'Star Wars: The Last Jedi' started by Contreras1991, Mar 19, 2018.

  1. Contreras1991

    Contreras1991 Rebelscum

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    https://www.forbes.com/sites/jvcham...last-jedi-science-movie-reviews/#2c8c99a674e6

    Interesting article that speaks about the differences between the audience, there are three paragraphs that catch my attention:

    Precisely why we can have such contrasting views isn't clear. When two people watch a film, their brain activity becomes synchronized, so they're seeing the same thing -- and yet they obviously perceive and experience that movie very differently, as demonstrated by heated arguments on internet forums. Such discussions over the quality of a movie, or indeed any form of art, never reach a conclusion (there's no 'winner') because people think they argue using objective facts even though they're actually arguing based on subjective opinions.

    Regardless of the cause, our variety in movie tastes means that taking any average rating -- whether it's from Rotten Tomatoes or IMDb user reviews -- is like putting everyone's opinions into a blender. "These averages can be a bit misleading because the individual variability is dramatic," Wallisch explains. "If there's too much variability, the mean is not meaningful."

    For now though, how should you find recommendations? Wallisch suggests asking a friend or following a film critic with similar preferences. "The upshot of the research is, if you want to know if you will like a certain movie, find somebody who shares your taste," he says. "If you have no other information, going with the IMDb scores is your best bet."
     
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  2. DailyPlunge

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    The audience scores that control against abuse show there's not much of a disconnect connect between fans and critics on The Last Jedi.
     
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    Sounds like good advice to me.
    The IMDb scores recommendation makes sense but it is limited - there are many films that fall into the 6-8 category that can vary wildly in quality.

    There are certainly pitfalls on both sides of the aggregators.
    The quality of critics vary - some are just broadcasters with an entertainment portfolio and others carry severe religious or political bias.
    One upside is that their affiliations can often be deduced from the media outlets they contribute to.

    It's also hard as a general audience member today to infer how you might feel about a movie from the audience scores alone.
    Scores for popular films tend to be full of rabid fans and those who feel so strongly their ratings tend to lean toward the extremes.
    A look through some of the RT audience reviews for TLJ will show many first-timers who joined just to rate the one film, conspiracy theories abounding, and those using their review to shamelessly appeal to others to rate the films as they did!

    Few of these things can ever be found in the critics section.

    There were a few take-homes from the ratings conundrum for me though:
    One is to take the information for what it is avoid drawing too many conclusions from it.
    Another is the importance of exploring outside of our comfort zone every now and again if we want to wizen up.
    And there is the fact that, despite the many variables involved in these aggregators, one can still draw some reasonable conclusions from information such as this ↓ regardless of what side of the coin your taste falls on!
     
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    Yep. That's what I usually do. And I sum that to my experience and knowledge about movies. 80% of the time I watch something that will pleased me.
     
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    It's amazing to me on how one film can cause so much love and hate for it all in the same breath. At least with TFA the common criticism was that it was too safe.
     
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    I don't see it as being a big issue. I've never walked out of a movie the way I felt about TLJ. TLJ was a perfect storm. Rarely do we have a movie that has 40 years of canon, lore and history as well as returning beloved actors reprising roles of classical characters (in anything more than a cameo). Add a new direction for the franchise as well as an effort to become more current and trendy in its humor and the current political climate that is very divisive in itself and is currently an open wound for many (SW has a history of making a comment on current affairs). I think much of the emotion will spill over into at least the results of the next 2 films, but it remains to be seen if it'll have any effect on the SW universe as a whole. I don't think SW is in any danger of losing money however.

    How large the impact can be is anyone's guess. It's hard to gauge if the loss of hard core fans will be measureable to the gain of casual fans. I don't think fandoms will get the same rabid fans SW has because so much Sci-Fi and Fantasy is churned up now. These fans (us) are no longer starved for our favored product. Personally I think the movies will do fine, but I also think the days of hauls like TFA are probably over. I think the ceiling moving forward will be somewhere between TLJ and TFA both due to fan base loss, SW fatigue, competition and a host of other issues every movie will have to deal with.

    My "estimates" are purely guesses and opinion. I'm simply making observations from what I've read on here and from my conversations with those around me. No crystal ball or Divine insight so take it for whatever you find it's worth.
     
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