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Force Awakens, how does it rank POLL

Discussion in 'Star Wars: The Force Awakens' started by YubNubBub, Dec 26, 2015.

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Which is your favorite SW movie?

  1. Episode 1 "The Phantom Menace"

    1 vote(s)
    0.6%
  2. Episode 2 "Attack of the Clones"

    2 vote(s)
    1.1%
  3. Episode 3 "Revenge of the Sith"

    10 vote(s)
    5.5%
  4. Episode 4 "A New Hope"

    33 vote(s)
    18.2%
  5. Episode 5 "Empire Strikes Back"

    91 vote(s)
    50.3%
  6. Episode 6 "Return of the Jedi"

    16 vote(s)
    8.8%
  7. Episode 7 "The Force Awakens"

    28 vote(s)
    15.5%
  1. YubNubBub

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    Personally,

    I was not that impressed. It's my least favorite.

    Without going into details there was a lot left to desire. My personal opinion: It was rushed. Plot holes. Force Cheapened.

    However I understand people did enjoy it and I respect everyones opinion.

    So, do the poll so we can find out where it exactly ranks amongst all of them.

    Yub Nub

    (To the people who rated this as trolling, Grow Up)
     
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    ANH and ESB are both on place number one for me.
    But, I voted for ANH, because it's the one that started all and who had the most influence.
    ANH is so good, that Lucasfilm/Disney decided to copy it. (TFA)

    It still holds up.
     
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    While I feel that the OT is still better, I found the movie more entertaining than any of the prequels. I liked the characters, the dialogue and the action.

    Yes, TFA felt at times too much as a homage, but it had the right 'energy' and 'feel'. If you think about any movie long enough, you will find plot holes. The plot holes in TFA (which there are) did not bother me, whereas they had bothered me in other SW episodes. I personally liked how they handled the Force. It was better than midi-chlorians.
     
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    A) this is not how you conduct a poll to determine a ranking
    B) that poll exist already in the thread fixed on the top of this page "Members Reviews"
     
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    Thanks for your opinion.

    The difference is this determines it based on your favorite SW movie rather than how you rank it in total of all the movies.
     
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    I did love ANH. Revenge of the Sith and AnH are my favorites.
     
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    This movie is just another example of the new normal in cinematic entertainment. Special effects, CGI toons, quick shifts to keep the movie tempo from slowing down and some nostalgia nods. That is all...as long as they can cater to the masses it's a winning formula...but not one that endeavors to be a lasting formula. This is pop music, top 40 entertainment. As long as they can push a trilogy out of it, pump the hype with pre-release commercialism (cars, toys, and other merchandise) than its all good. Looking for an oscar, or even building a genre no longer matters. Consumerism has officially replaced creativity...but let's not act like we didn't see it coming a mile away. Hell, Prometheus was way more ridiculous, but at least I'm still curious to see how the protagonist ends up in the next movie. With TFA, I left without really caring what happens to the resistance, Jedi, republic or the first order.

    This movie ranks a solid 7 out of 10. Missing a good portion of points due to lack of character development...not to mention the flimsy ad hoc story line. ESB is still the best one by a landslide
     
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    Well said but I wouldn't give it a 7 out of 10.

    So many inconsistencies with the SW universe and Im NOT the only one pointing them out. People are getting really upset people are pointing out the flaws, even as far as taking is personal like a CHILD.

    Fact is Rey developed her powers too quickly and without training. UNLESS its explained (and I doubt it will ever be) it was a huge blunder on their part.

    But we got people in here trying to defend it with theories or this and that. LOOK people, you do not know, and Disney never offered to add explaination into the movie. So unless its canon don't defend the obvious.

    Fact is Rey did a Jedi Master mind trick in under 3 tries without any APPARENT formal training, and without the standard gesture done BY EVERY JEDI before. Don't dance around it with: "Well we learned new stuff about the force OR its clear she was trained as a child and her memory wiped"

    You simply DON'T know.

    But I do know this, unless Disney offers up explainations for everything this is by far a mediocre SW film and rates a measly like maybe 2 stars from me.
     
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    I think Rey's power is explained in the title of the movie
     
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    It did have the energy but I disagree it was handled the right way.

    Lets put out some facts.

    As a novice to the force, Luke struggled to even grab a lightsaber at Hoth. He was the Chosen One's Son. After his formal training with Yoda, at Cloud City in his duel with a fully trained Sith Lord, he grabbed it with ease. What did Rey do without any formal training? Grab a lightsaber with ease away from Kylo Ren.

    Furthermore, Kylo was so powerful. He could freeze stuff in place, people and even an electricty arc bolt. This begs the question, why at the end was he able to not stop the hero's? Given the power he had? Oh wait he was wounded, but he still clearly commanded the force at the end of the movie. Why not freeze Finn and be done with it, and Rey?

    Fact is the movie was not well thought out.

    But some people here act like children, and defend it with crack pot theories and hogwash. Unless its canon I don't want to hear it.

    Go ahead take it personal, act childish. But TFA did not line up within the SW universe unless Disney offers explaination.
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    We saw the Force Awakening when Rey realized she had the force. I am assuming thats why they chose the title.

    But there was a complete disregard for SW tradition and training requirements. Apparently, as shown by Rey, you no longer need a Master and a Apprentice, and can become a Master yourself just by concentrating hard enough.

    But yet she is showing up at Luke's door at the end of the movie?

    She already knows how to Jedi Master mind trick! She already grabbed a lightsaber from a trained dark side earrior who could freeze his opponents!

    It was handled poorly. Point blank. I see what they were going for, but it doesn't fit the canon of the past about training. Don't offer up any theories, from all appearances she was abandoned to Jakku as a child with zero formal training.

    Unless it canon don't offer it up.
     
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    First of all, the force is not something that can be used consistently and to the same level regardless of physical and emotional duress.

    The force requires CONCENTRATION. A clear mind. Total focus.

    How can a person effectively concentrate with a gaping wound, the emotional confrontation and murder of their parent 10 minutes prior at their own hand, the imminent failure of their military endeavor, resulting in the destruction of the planet they happen to be on?

    Particularly a person who is not fully trained in the use of the force?

    Luke only mastered the ability to grab the saber when he was able to FOCUS.

    And if you have a problem with the ability to use the force without training, then I suppose you ALSO have a problem with everything Anakin Skywalker did in The Phantom Menace and everything Luke Skywalker did in A New Hope and the first half of The Empire Strikes Back.

    How does Luke blow up the Death Star without a targeting computer without any real training? How does he summon things with the force? How does he fall from an AT-AT without injury? Obi Wan never taught him how to do any of those things. All we ever see is a brief lesson in deflecting laser bolts with a saber en route to Alderaan. Hardly an extensive lesson in the mastery of the force.

    If anything, the criticisms are petty and short-sighted, without any attempt made to wait for the conclusion of the story and full revelation of events. Everything must be answered and make perfect sense NOW. There is nothing in The Force Awakens that contradicts what we already know about the force. What we don't know is for Episodes 8-9 to reveal.
     
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    Ok, I respect that answer. Good one. I can see past Kylo only being able to push Rey at the end. But I don't see the other answers ever coming. The force was altered.
     
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    Your opinion is taken.
     
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    Thank you, what is your thoughts?

    Anakin was Chosen and Created by the midichlorians. It is canon as speculation the force was attempting to strike back at its own misuse.

    I am going out on a LEDGE here and saying the new abilities we saw were dark side abilities that were lost to Sidious to train with, that Snoke knows of.

    But still, we are left with more questions than answers. I just don't see Episode 8 answering them. I doubt they will ever be answered.

    Unless Rey is a prodigy, or another creation of the force, it wont fit canonical within the SW universe. They MUST offer up an explaination because if they do not we are left with the force being altered.

    Also notice at the end of the film when swinging at Kylo after her Force moment, she was swinging in ANGER. Do we have another potential Anakin and a fall to the dark side coming?
     
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    Maybe in terms of turning to the darkside that could happen to Rey & Kylo.
     
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    I find it strange she concentrated on the force with her battle with Kylo then started swinging in anger. Almost like she is taking her first steps towards the dark side.
     
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    I believe she was focused on stopping Kylo than sampling the darkside,that will be put to the test in episode 8.
     
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    Well she was striking out in anger which is a step towards the dark side as we all know.

    It almost reminded me of when Dooku confronted Anakin "You have hate. You have anger. But you do not use them." Next thing you know Anakin gets angry just look at the hate and anger on his face the next swings(probably because Dooku sensed his emotions which is an invasion and also told him something he didn't want to hear).
     
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    So far Force Awakens is ranked 3 amongst the public according to this poll.
     
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    A lot of people here have the trolling rating confused with disagree.

    Anyway, I rated TESB as my favorite Star Wars film.

    And if I had the option, I would have rated TFA as my least favorite.
     
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