SPECULATION Force Ghosts

But wouldn't Ben be just as appropriate a force ghost to visit Luke? Ben was Anakin's friend/mentor/enemy. He knew Padme, watched Luke from afar on Tatooine and then helped Luke on the path to becoming a Jedi.

 

It really makes no sense at all storywise for anything in the prequels that wasn't in the OT to play any part whatsoever in the ST.

It's the worst kind of fan pandering, the kind that only panders to a minority of fans in spite of everyone else.

 

Yes but its not practical since Alec Guinness is dead. And I don't want them to shoe horn an aged Ewen McGregor and try to pass it off as Obi Wan from ANH.

With Yoda there will be no continuity issues.

 

I hear you. I just think Ben has a closer connection to Luke and the Skywalker's than Yoda.

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You know Lucas would have figured out a way to get old Ben in the film

 

Sounds familiar

 

It's totally practical to have Ewan playing an older Obi-Wan, it's not like they wouldn't go the extra mile to make him match up even more physically. They already took great lengths to really get Ewan to match up closely with Alec Guinness in Episode 3 and it was effective.

But I repeat, prequel characters showing up in the ST that never had any relationship with OT characters?

No. It makes no sense for them to do that. Why would they?

What purpose could this possibly serve the story that couldn't be achieved without a need for a scene that goes like this:

A ghastly voice is heard through the void...

"Luuukke...Luke..."

"Ben?"

The ghastly voice takes shape before Luke, it is Qui-Gon Jinn returned to sell more action figures!

"No you never met or heard of me before, I am Qui-Gon Jinn. My apprentice Obi-Wan Kenobi lied about more than your father, he never thought it was necessary to tell you the truth about who his real master was. It wasn't Yoda. Actually I trained him and taught him how to come back as a ghost too.

In fact it was I who initially discovered your father and decided he should be a Jedi. You see there was this prophecy about a Chosen One who would bring balance to the Force, and he would be a virgin birth. This was your father. My apprentice Obi-Wan agreed to train him as my last request upon my dying breath. So he was also lying about how amazed about your father's skills as a pilot and all that other stuff he said.

By the way I have little knowledge of this new threat you're facing, but its definitely not Darth Plagueis that's just a silly rumor. But I figured what the hell, might as well drop my two cents in on the matter and drop some exposition on you the audience is already aware of but that you would never have known about if I did not appear in this film."

 

I wouldn't find Qui-Gon in 1 scene to be too dumb. He might be training Luke on how to become a force ghost. Include him with Yoda. I don't think it should or will happen, just wouldn't hate the idea.

 

It makes no sense for this character to suddenly show up that has absolutely nothing to do with this story and never knew any of the characters in it.

There's no way to do this where it's not totally dumb.

They didn't even bother to make him reappear as a ghost in the prequels and he isn't even mentioned at all in the OT.

If this wouldn't bother you, I mean no disrespect when I say this is why Hollywood spends so much money on crappy unnecessary sequels, remakes and movies based off of toys and other garbage.

Because people aren't just okay with it, they pay for it.

 

The EU Sith ghosts aren't one with The Force. Rather, they're resisting The Force's effort to destroy their identities and are clinging to the realm of the living.

 

I see. that makes more since.

 

I think they explained force ghosts a little bit more in the Clone Wars cartoon series, which I think is canon. Personally, I don't need an in-depth explanation. I hope they just keep force-related matters simple and don't try to over-explain how the force works.

If our new heroes do encounter force ghosts during their adventures, all that would be needed to explain them is a brief comment from an old wise jedi like Luke (or an actual force ghost), similar to Obi-Wan's explaination of the force in A New Hope.

 

Would be cool to see Hayden returning as Ghost Anakin..... I'm gonna run now.

 

I think Yoda definitely could appear. We might hear Obi-wan's voice, a good mimic could pull it off. Ewan might even do it. If Anakin shows up, would it be the Hayden version? A CG version based of of ROTJ? Will they appear at a death pyre of any character? Or just to a Jedi?

 

If Luke has one scene then I see no ghosts in this movie.

 

i have my doubts on whether or not any Force ghosts will make an appearance for a couple of reasons:

right off the bat, i agree with @Itsnotimportant that throwing in random ghosts is lame, ala Qui Gon; if they do it, it'll feel pretty forced (pardon the pun). i also agree with @Darth Holmes that forcing in another actor as Obi Wan, even if it IS Ewan or MVS, would be sort of lame. Yoda is obviously the wisest choice, but i still have my doubts on whether or not a Force ghost will be making an appearance.

now, to back my position up, i will reference the first teaser, in particular the line, "there has been an awakening..." this says to me that the Force has been "dormant" for a while, which leads me to believe that the Force ghosts may have deserted Luke and the waking world. post RotJ Luke finds himself once more alone and without guidance, shackled to the burden of being the galaxy's last Jedi (Roland Deschain, eat your heart out). it works for me!

all that being said, if they manage to get the ghosts in there without it feeling kitsch then more power to them! just so long as i don't have to see Hayden lol

 

My top choices for ghosts in this trilogy - Yoda, Qui-Gon, Anakin. Anakin could tell Luke things about the dark side, Qui-Gon and Yoda about the past.....Qui-Gon had to be hell-of-a-Jedi if he was the first ever to learn the trick....Besides I like Liam Neeson Obi-Wan - maybe in a distant future when cgi is at the level of bring Alec Guiness back...Ewan McGregor please in a standalone movie

 

Why would Qui-gon appear? He only mattered to Anakin and Obi-wan. Luke wouldn't even know what he looks like.

 

This explanation in the EU is pure and bad excuse to have sith FORCE GHOSTS even if it´s impossible for them to achieve it. It just throws the movie canon to the garbage can

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Because I like Liam Neeson fun aside - he won´t be in this one. I can imagine Qui-Gon in an Obi-Wan standalone...

 

i'd like to see vader appear as a force ghost to kylo, but actually not be real just part of his psychopathic delusions. when he is talking to vader's burned helmet have what he thinks is a force ghost show up and talk back to him.