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Game of Thrones, anyone?

Discussion in 'Television' started by Iluvatar, May 19, 2016.

  1. RoyleRancor

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    Jon has a very different sense of honor than Ned, largely stemming from his time at the wall and his actually seeing the Night King imo. To him, "Winter is Coming" aren't just house words, they're an inevitability.

    Jon betrayed his oath to the Watch for the greater good. Jon betrayed his brothers at the Watch for the greater good. Jon betrayed his role as King in the North for the greater good. Jon betrayed his Queen for the greater good.

    Jon is absolutely honor-bound...but it's to the greater good, never to the smaller factions he pledges to. So I don't think he's betraying his own code of honor.
     
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  2. eeprom

    eeprom Prince of Bebers

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    I get what your saying. Jon’s trajectory in this season though was: “She’s my Queen. She’s my Queen. She’s my Queen. She’s my Queen” <STAB!>

    The choice he makes is perfectly in line with his previous decisions, yes, but the act itself is in conflict with what he himself would consider “honorable”. He gave his word and he broke it. He wouldn’t be ‘proud’ of that, but would feel it was (hopefully) the right thing to do. Which, I guess, is more of him keeping within his own nature rather than breaking from it.
     
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    I think part of that is, with most things in his life, Jon didn't want to do it. He was looking for every possible out. Maybe she'll change. Maybe it won't be this bad. He's done fighting and killing, he explicitly says this several times throughout the show but is always drawn right back into it. He thought he had his out with his Queen.

    Saving Sansa and the North from his Queen's fury is very much in his "honorable" lines IMO
     
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    Use the Falchion Jedi Contrarian

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    Lenerith Rebelscum

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    great show.
    The Hype was unreal. (Altough justified imo).
    The Ending could have been better, but woah, what a ride!
     
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    Angelman Servant of the Whills -- Slave to the Muses
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    This. Exactly, 100% this.
     
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