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General Star Wars - The Rise of Skywalker News and Rumors Thread

Discussion in 'Star Wars: The Rise of Skywalker' started by Lord Phanatic, Dec 11, 2015.

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    I'd be kind of stunned if something this big leaked out. JJ runs a tight ship and something like leaking out would require a pretty big breach.
     
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    Even so I don't believe that is a debunk. To me it reads like He's putting out tentative feelers and investigating rather than saying flat out nope.

    He ain't going to get Rey's last name. All he will get at best is story beats like TFA. We shall see.
     
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    I know that Han became a rebellion hero, but we should not forget that he is impulsive... and that he had a past, as we saw in Solo. Maybe the return of Lando has something to do with this story... Maybe Ki’ra’s Rey’s mother... Mmm “you wish he was the father you never had, he would have disappointed you...” “Your son is gone. He was weak and foolish like his father...” Kylo seems so disappointed in his father... And this news would strangely make Rey to shut up about “you had parents who gave a damn about you...” It adds up.

    “The sins of the father”, JJ said that.
     
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    In the context of the ST itself, it works.
    I must say,
    It fits nicely with TFA (with many details / mystery boxes / hints of said movie) and
    in my eye it would even make Rey’s journey in TLJ less... pointless
    I’d take it as an improvement of that movie. Or of some (not all) of the issues I have with it.

    In short I’d say that if true then the ST would work better on its own.
    As a 3 chapters story.
    That it’s not to say that I would like what they have done with Luke, Leia and Han.
    But that’s another thing. I am only saying that I’d take these last 3 movies as something more cohesive.

    But... in the context of a 9 movies saga is... meh.
    Disappointing. I don’t see the point of it, how this could be tied with the core theme of that story.

    If so, the ST won’t be the last chapter of the same “saga” (as I have wished), the culmination of a journey
    that started with ep I, but “only” 3 more movies.... absolutely forgettable, if one wants to.
    I mean, one might choose to ignore them, to pretend they never existed without loosing anything.
    Quite frankly... if compared to Reylo.. or other things that would destroy the way I see/feel SW (that’s a personal take of course) that would still be.... a relief at this point.

    Even if I must admit that if other rumors are true, then the IX movies saga should change its name from the Skywalker saga into the Sidius saga,
    He, not the chosen one, is the main character. Start to finish.
     
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    If they're bringing Palpatine/Sith back then Anakin has to tie back into this or the whole Chosen One thing doesn't really work anymore.
     
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    I don't think so... Jason was the one who leaked those force fights or whatever they where called. From the Rise of artbook it looks legit.
     
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    Palpatine could use this information to try to turn Rey to the dark side... It could work.

    On the other hand, Adam Driver said that Kylo’s fall to the dark had more to do with him feeling family pressure than anything else... wouldn’t Han’s peccadillo then have made things easier for Kylo in that sense?

    Although maybe not... Maybe the pressure to live up to his parents’ fame and his disappointment in them just merges into one negative feeling.

    As I said, it’s possible, although personally I prefer some kind of Reylo ;)
     
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    Mmm there is a devilish part in me that is starting to think this rumour could have been fabricated to ease people into the idea of bendemption and, perhaps, Reylo... both of these would be far more palatable for most fans than having Han Solo cheating Leia :D

    Could Disney be trying to prep the fans or is this just crazy talk? O-o
     
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    Reylo is a fun internet theory that isn't happening. It would be like Christine ending up with the Phantom of the Opera. Ben being redeemed is probably the most predictable outcome. He'll either die sacrificing himself or go in exile. Rey will rebuild the Jedi order.
     
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    I think I'm cool with the rumor if it turned out to be true. We know from the trailer that Rey's parental situation will be expanded upon. It fits with a number of things pretty nicely like why Kylo was more willing to kill his father than his mother. It also makes Kylo's claim that she has no part in this story more meaningful like he is almost saying she has no part in the family as an illegitimate half-sister. It also solidifies her sense of anger with Kylo that he not only killed her father figure, but her actual father, who she has longed for since a child. It works in a lot of ways imo.
     
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    It wouldn't add anything to the story, would upset the apple cart of what story we have been given, and at this point would be so convoluted for movie. Like it's been said, Jason putting out feelers maybe? It's just stupid. I've seen people excited about the prospect. Have they not watched the last two movies?
     
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    This story is out there and it's not just Jason. The mods at Star Wars Leaks confirmed it as well. It's fine that you don't like the choice, but please refrain from bashing people who aren't outraged.
     
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    To be honest it feels lesser than two evils. I definitely think it adds more meat to the bones. This also makes TFA more relevant again and I find it 1000% better than Reylo. Would I have liked this story at the start? No but with what we have right now? I'd grasp it with both hands.

    It won't make a great story but it would be reasonable.

    (If it helps I think something along the lines in the film could happen because that apparent reddit leaker is saying similar, the scene could be correct but context miles off. Jason is notorious for that. One image could tell a thousand different stories).
     
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    out where? Rumor land? Nothing big like that is going to spill, and it was not an attack on you personally. She said she was no one in TFA, In TLJ it was repeated. I honestly never see it going this way at this point. There are hundreds of ways this story could go.
     
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    Reylo is not a theory anymore. Reylo exists. The connection between Rey and Kylo, although ambiguos in nature, is undeniable... TLJ put that debate to rest. Long gone are the days when people denied there was a connection :)

    Reylo doesn’t mean there will be a wedding and babies or other straw men people have latched on to stop the debate. There were always, always layers to the theory ( when it was a theory, that is :))
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    Kylo is not like the phantom of the opera, he has a different function in the story, I think. I can see his redemption in TROS being about reforming the fallen, not having them saved prior to killing them off just to have a neat ending with an uncomplicated hero like in ROTJ or even TPOTO.. the lesson should be expanded and a different solution given this time around: Let’s have Ben, brother, friend or lover, live... Let’s give a true message of hope.

    Also, just a wild suggestion, could it be that Kylo “thinks” Han had an affair and resulting offspring, and believes Rey is that offspring, but he later discovers he’s mistaken? Could this be some sort of mcguffin?
     
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    JJ said he will honor RJ's decision and regarding this scene...
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    ... Rian said: "It's the closest thing we'll get to a sex scene in a 'Star Wars' movie."

    This statement alone debunks Rey Solo, unless these director have very weird preferences... Haha!
     
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    I always found that statement funny. It's like the kiss scene on the Falcon with Leia and Han doesn't count.
     
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    That scene with Han and Leia wasn’t as charged.
     
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    Well it was the second movie and we all know what happened after that Luke and Leia scene in ESB...
    So maybe it rather confirms than debunks it. (yoda)
     
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    If this latest rumor is true, no one has any reason to be mad at Ben Solo for killing his dad. He was just carrying out justice for his mama. :rolleyes:
     
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