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General Star Wars - The Rise of Skywalker News and Rumors Thread

Discussion in 'Star Wars: The Rise of Skywalker' started by Lord Phanatic, Dec 11, 2015.

  1. Andrew Waples

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    I guarantee if George knew they where gonna ending up being brother and sister, that moment would have been cut. There's a couple of moments in ANH I think he would have changed as well.
     
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    That's not the same case. Lucas didn't know Leia was Luke's sister, furthermore there was no sexual tension at all. Leia just did this to make Han jealous.
     
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    One curious thing about this idea is that if Leia decided to train to become a Jedi she would essentially being leaving her family behind. There's nothing in canon yet that changes the Jedi code. Luke didn't have a family. One reason why this whole scenario seems like a long shot is because it requires a lot of explanation.
     
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    She may have not trained "to become a Jedi" but just as a form of understanding and defensive/preservation purposes. Clearly, Luke taught her some things, like how to fly through space without oxygen.
     
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    This rumour just doesn't really make sense. People seem to think that Ben needs to have hated his dad to kill him, and that Han cheating on Leia could be the justification for the act. The issue is Ben wasn't full of hatred when he killed his father, but instead crying and even more damnably he thanked him! You don't thank someone you hate for infidelity. If that's not enough, Ben flat out said that he didn't hate his father in TLJ.

    I don't think will happen. It just doesn't work for the story so far. But then I thought that the leak about Creedence being revealed to be a certain character in the Fantastic Beasts movie was BS and was unpleasantly surprised...:(
     
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    Han"It's true. All of it. Even me having an affair and having a little girl who I traded for beer money."

    Nah...
     
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    It was pretty clear that he felt he needed to kill his father in order to complete his turn to the dark side to kill the light, that means to me that he actually loved his father. He resented being sent to Luke to be trained, because he loved his parents. Han left AFTER Ben destroyed the Jedi Academy. So as a justification for anything, infidelity ain't it. Rey COULD be Han's daughter but since no one knew about her, then Ben doesn't have that as a motivation for anything.
     
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    A human could live 30 seconds or so in the vacuum of space. So the only real trick she had to do was a simple force pull to get back to the ship.
    My bigger issue is Leia and Han breaking up over Ben Solo. Why would a married couple break up after 30 years because their adult son made poor life choices? It doesn't really make sense.
    Correct, but it's possible there's more to that story. Otherwise that whole thing doesn't really make sense to me.
     
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    Couples have broken up over far less. Also Han running away is pretty on character for him.
     
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    When Luke explained to Rey the circumstances of Ben's fall, he said concerning the decision to send Ben to Luke's new temple, "Han was Han about it. But Leia trusted me with her son." This suggests that they disagreed on how to deal with Ben's darkness but eventually settled with Leia's option. It's even a possibility that Leia made the decision alone because she says something like, "I shouldn't have sent him away. That was when I lost you both." Regardless of the circumstances of the choice, Ben turned because of this decision and that would be difficult to face.

    As well as the argument over Ben's training, we have to consider that Leia is a general in the Resistance, an organization that is in direct opposition to the military dictatorship of which Ben is part of. If Han had stayed, he would be forced to hear of or even watch all the horrible acts his son is responsible for. Han is no solider, so I think this would have torn him up inside.
     
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    A solid marriage over 25 years wouldn't separate over something like that. If that's how the story goes, that's fine, but the separation and Kylo killing Han for no apparent reason is the weakest part of the trilogy.
    My guess is part of this rumor is people who are familiar with what footage was cut in TFA. It's possible there was more to the Han/Leia thing at first and they cut it because of what we're seeing here... some people just won't be able to deal with Han having an affair. Now that they're bringing the footage back maybe some people are assuming they've brought back some of those ideas.
     
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    Personally I don't think it's true at all, it doesn't make sense and it contradicts what Kylo said in TLJ. Kylo saw who her parents were in her mind and why would he lie to her. Rian also said Kylo wasn't lying to Rey at that moment. I doubt JJ would retcon that decision and make her Rey Solo.

    Even JediPaxis and Jason both say they're unsure about this and Jason said people he trusts don't believe it's accurate. But one thing for sure is this is Uniting everyone in opposition to it
     
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    What? RJ said Kylo could of bin lying to her. Funny how the Force works with the fans.

    Rey's vision explained in the elevator "you stand with me and the light" Kylo's vision explained in the elevator "you will stand united with me".

    Yet they both went splitsville. But the Kylo vision he saw about drunk losers is "true"?
     
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    It's almost like a child dying. I've seen people throw themselves into other things because of that pain. It sounds like that is what these characters did and even say so. They obviously did not hate each other when reunited, but the pain returned. I've seen people split because of incidents like that and it usually wasn't abrupt, but gradual. It seemed realistic to me. After some time, she's off building armies, and he's smuggling again and they forget it's been months or years, maybe even get to avoid each other not to deal with that pain, but not because they don't care for one another, it's that they care about what happened and the pain.
     
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    Visions in Star Wars aren't always so black and white. Look at The Chosen One prophecy or Luke's visions in 5 and 8.
     
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    True, you got a point there.
     
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    Codswollop peddled by reddit posters, sorry....

    But since your asking about the rumours, I don't post this often. People talk star wars in the most peculiar places and in these peculiar places many variety of people turn up.

    It's 100% false but don't be surprised if some scene descriptive details have a grain of truth if not edited out.

    Just quickly wanted to add before time runs out for editing. I read my post back and it sounded rude.

    All I meant is I have seen this notion posted in many different places. Yes one main places reddit. I Don't have an account over there because I can't stand the place. I think it awful a right dog cellar. And I for one will not stand United with that place.

    Please accept my apologies if I came across as insincere and rude.
     
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    One thing for certain though, is this rumor has been uniting people in opposition
     
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    Why would Kylo lie? Be because he's a Sith wannabe Emo scumbag maybe....?

    I doubt its true but....I remember a similar rumor going back to TFA. JJ is reusing a bunch of stuff from that time frame so its not that farfetched. The shock does not become she is Rey Solo but the big mystery becomes WHO is the mother. And that added mystery and the lack of time to explain it (and they have to after dropping a bomb like that this late or risk major backlash) is why I don't think it's true.
     
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    Not really. He's an adult and he's still alive. If there's in family that would be prepared for something like this it seems like the child of Darth Vader might be able not to have her life upended by something like this... Her planet was destroyed. Everyone she loved on her home was destroyed and lost. Her entire life has been surrounded by tragedy. I just don't get it.
     
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