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General Star Wars - The Rise of Skywalker News and Rumors Thread

Discussion in 'Star Wars: The Rise of Skywalker' started by Lord Phanatic, Dec 11, 2015.

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    This toy has the legs of a woman... or maybe it's the boots.
     
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    From the description:

    A source reached out after the last update and filled in exactly what the catalyst is that breaks up the opening scene described to me from Star Wars: The Rise of Skywalker. In case you didn't see yesterday's update yet, here is the meat of it (check the full article for a few random tidbits):

    After the opening crawl, we pan from space. The camera moves towards a planet covered in trees. We see a blue lightsaber dueling a green lightsabers in the distance. Both of the lightsabers are held in hand by two Jedi with white helmets with visors covering their faces so we cannot immediately recognize if this is Rey with someone new. The two Jedi break from their duel and remove their helmets to reveal Luke Skywalker and Leia Organa looking exactly the age they did in Return of the Jedi on Endor's moon. The movie begins with a flashback. What to expect when you're expecting.

    I'm told the reason the training is halted in the opening scene because Return of the Jedi era Luke Skywalker realizes something has changed with his sister, Leia Organa. He questions Leia and she confides in Luke that's she's going to be a mother. This is the moment Luke Skywalker realizes Ben Solo is coming and the galaxy will never be the same again.

    We then hear a voice-over shouting "Master Leia!" causing Rey to end Leia's flashback and we are thrust into the post-Luke Skywalker era, far from General Leia Organa's training with her brother all those years ago. Now, we are with Leia and Rey amongst the trees. Rey trains to become the Jedi that will face-off against the evil supreme leader that was once the child Leia carried during her training with Luke Skywalker.

    A caveat worth noting.

    About a month ago, there was filming being conducted in Black Park near Pinewood Studios. The location where Rey trains was used again and it makes sense that the additional content pertains to these sequences. For all we know, there's been stuff added. However, it could just be a lot of minor performance changes or shot coverage for a better way to present the sequence. I do seem to remember first hearing of the flashback sequence and it being a secret location within Pinewood Studios itself.

    What might it mean?

    I like how the sequence expands on Leia's character while also showing us one of the moments we always wanted to see after 1983 when we hoped "they" would make more Star Wars movies that continued the Skywalker story. If this rumor is accurate in the way I've heard it described, it sets the tone of Star Wars: The Rise of Skywalker hard and fast. This movie is about saving Ben Solo and bringing Rey into the fold.
     
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    The thing I'm struggling with in regards to these new rumors is that they don't fit the on-the-record statement of Leia's part in the film consisting only of deleted material from The Force Awakens and I really don't see Kathleen Kennedy being the type of person to willfully deceive people.
     
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    Ummmm... what?
    --- Double Post Merged, Sep 13, 2019, Original Post Date: Sep 13, 2019 ---
    They would have to CGI a young Leia regardless of whether Carrie was alive or not. I believe that most if not all dialog will be original Carrie Fisher delivering the lines. Carrie was ok with CGI Leia in Rogue One. I think what Kathleen was insisting was that they wouldn't use an all CGI character and new vocal performances. Now there's not way Kathleen of JJ was going to say... you'll really like the way we did it in this one flashback scene with younger Luke and Leia.
     
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    : D @Kylocity I get what you're saying, but I had to laugh so hard... Maybe it's Matt Smith's character (that's what @NinjaRen said).
     
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    Thin legs are sexy and JJ knows it ;D

    In the end it's just a toy and not a biological correct representation of a human being.
     
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    However, if Carrie was still alive and they were going to do this same scene they would have to use CGI as well as a stunt person to pull it off.
     
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    They could use her daughter.
     
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    Depending on how difficult the scene is they could have used Billie Lourd as the body double or a stunt person if it was more intense.
    depends how intense the lightsaber dueling between Luke and Leia was. Either way to get a young Leia was going to require CGI to look like Leia after ROTJ

    I think they did use Billie some in this movie to make Leia come to life.
     
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    Again, it has been stated on-the-record that Leia's participation in it was limited strictly to the use of previously shot footage.

    If that statement hadn't been made, there wouldn't be a cognitive disconnect.
     
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    And that is what they did to create 50some year old Leia who would have been portrayed by older Carrie Fisher. They were not going to use technology like they did to completely recreate her character like they did with Peter Cushing and Tarkin in Rogue One. However if they are and/or were going to show flashbacks of a young Leia in IX they were going to have to do CGI even if Carrie was alive. If that is the case with TROS they technically are not going back on what they have previously stated.
     
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    I don't think you're seeing the point.

    If you've gone on record stating that a character is only going to included in a film via a very specific manner, you are automatically ruling out any other method of including said character.

    And since it would seem completely out of character for Kathleen Kennedy to say that Leia is only going to be included in TRoS via footage from The Force Awakens when the film has actually used both previously shot footage AND body doubles/CGI de-aging, I'm having a hard time squaring the notion of a flashback involving a younger Leia with said on-the-record statement.
     
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    @RockyRoadHux @DjChubakka I swear, that toy has woman’s legs... more Barbie than Action Man I’m sure ;)

    This knight of Ren is going to be a woman :D

    Where do you bet?
     
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    if it's indeed a flashback, they would need to get another actress anyway...
     
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    One of the KOR will definitely be (and actually should be) a woman. But I doubt the legs of a toy will give something like this away. All the KOR toys will have the same legs.
     
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    Ok, Ok. You win.
    Happy? ;)
     
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    I’m with you man. It sounds like a lot of folks are doing mental gymnastics to justify these rumors. I’m not saying the rumors are wrong... I have zero inside info, so I have no idea. But if they are true then Disney clearly will be walking back their original statement about not recreating Leia. They didn’t say “only existing footage... but only pertaining to old Leia.” Now what would be AMAZING is if there was cut footage from ROTJ that had Luke training Leia... that would blow my mind! But the odds of something like that staying secret all this time is... zero.
     
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    They could always use Ingvild Deila again like they did in Rogue One and cast a separate voice actress for ADR for exact timing and lip match. If it is going to be another small Leia scene, that could still work.

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    I didn't read the rumors and spoilers in detail (and I won't) But I can't imagine how such a flashback would be important to any story they want to tell in tros. It's only purpose would be to service the fans with something they always wanted to see.
     
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