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General The Book of Boba Fett talk

Discussion in 'The Book of Boba Fett' started by Angelman, Dec 18, 2020.

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    That's all I'm trying to say. I'm not going to pretend the Tuskens are lovable characters because it's politically correct. I don't want to get into politics. None of what I say about Tuskens are my views on real people I'm going off of what we've seen in star wars movies.
     
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    Perhaps not, but the show is. Star Wars couldn't really be much more clear in the way it's depicted the Tusken Raiders in KOTOR, Mando, and Fett.



    I still think that the power dynamic is vital here. Don't believe me? Here's what your statement would look like in another GFFA conflict:

     
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    Well maybe the Rebels were wrong too. That's a whole nother debate. They're no angels either. I don't want to discuss it anymore because it's become political. I'm not going to put myself in that situation any further. Yay sandpeople!!
     
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    Fair enough- if you're willing to let your argument rest after "maybe the Rebels were wrong the fight the Empire", I'll let that stand for what it is. (And for what it's worth, I agree with Snow that I don't think you intend to make parallels to real world incidents, but the fact remains that those parallels exist regardless. I think we really just were hoping you'd be more mindful of that in your criticisms, that's all)


    Anywho... more TBoBF tomorrow! Looking forward to this one- I feel like we've gotten through a lot of the more predictable elements of the show in the tablesetting of the first two episodes, so I have a feeling things are about to get a little more interesting.
     
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    I've continuously said I'm refering to the fictional tuskens and not any people groups. Maybe it's wrong of the writers and directors to compare natives to Tuskens.

    Sandpeople have always been portrayed as villainous. Now all of the sudden, all is forgiven, and they get a free pass because now Sandpeople=Natives, so you can't criticize a fictional group of villains now. Well sorry.
     
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    The showrunners for TBoBF have chosen to present your villainous, 'savages' from a different perspective. You are welcome to continue having issues with it just as others here can love it.

    But when all is said and done, look on the bright side: We ALL still have those damn Jawas to curse at!!! :) :) :)
     
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    I love seeing other perspectives especially in Star Wars but I don't have to agree with them. I watched a documentary about Atilla the Hun and he felt justified in his atrocities. I don't agree with him though.

    Jawas are natives too. They have the right to swindle and steal from the outsiders because they swindled and stole from them.
     
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    Hmm... none of that is really at all what I'm trying to say, so I apologize if I haven't expressed myself clearly. If you're interested, we could take this to PM, but I think we've pretty much exhausted the thread with the topic by now.
     
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    All im going to say is it's going to take more than one episode for me to warm up to Tusken Raiders. I get the whole noble warrior trope they're going for. Im not there yet. Fortunately there are 5 more episodes to go. Yes they're cool warriors. Im certainly not bashing native Americans either. There were a lot of peaceful tribes, more so than not. So far all we've seen of Tusken raiders are brutal killers. Again it's the second episode, the first of which portrayed them very harshly. I really don't get the backlash for saying Tusken raiders are bad. If the writers really want to make the comparison between tuskens and natives, they should probably make the tuskens less savage. Really it's a messed up comparison. Really they shouldn't have gone there and it's unfortunate they did.
     
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    So, moving on.

    I was going to post a question about this theme earlier but ended up answering myself. ( I didn't think we heard this theme in the show yet, but then I noticed it very briefly in a couple of the sweeping aerial views of Mos Espa ) ... remember the musical theme that introduced The Book of Boba Fett during the end credits of Mando S2 finale? This one:


    I really want some more of this. Good tempo, plenty of ominous tones. I enjoy the main theme well enough, but I think this one has a little more potential, a little more range maybe?
    Anyone else feelin the same?
     
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    YAY!!! WHOO-HOO!!! ;)

    I really like it. I had (erroneously) assumed that this 'post credit music' was a preview of TBoBF's main musical theme.

    I liked it from the beginning but I will confess, the main theme used in the first two episodes really make an emotional connection.

    To me, the genius of Ludwig Goransson's music is that it continues to 'grow' on you everytime you listen to it.
     
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    Is this show a joke?
     
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    If you don't like the show that's fine and understandable but c,mon now
     
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    So, just a thought I had randomly while noodling on some of the complaints of the show. Two of the major complaints I've heard of the show are how Boba Fett doesn't feel like the same character fans know and love, and how directionless this show can feel at times. The both are exemplified in the complaint saying that Boba could be replaced with pretty much any other character, and the show would be the same. Thinking about it...part of me agrees with that statement. So I found myself wondering, what if we switched out Boba Fett for another character? What if the Book of Boba Fett was actually Mandalorian Season 3?

    What if a directionless Mandalorian after the events of Season 2 had decided to make a safe haven for his desperate companions, as a sort of half-hearted appeal to the demands put upon him? He wants to be different leader than Jabba because he's seen how far respect can grow, but he's been a bounty hunter for so long he's a little...rusty when it comes to understanding how to lead. This season shows the struggles between what the people of Tatooine think a good leader looks like, and what Mando thinks a good Mandalorian leader looks like. Fennec Shand - "released" into Mando's care by Boba in appreciation for returning his armor - is now a mentor instead of a mouthpiece for someone who really shouldn't need one. She's also a potential enemy; she and Mando made peace when Boba was in the picture, but what about now that he's out of it, and there's power at stake? Will she betray him, or will she stay loyal to the will of the man who saved her?

    Ultimately this arc would lead into something I call the "Outer War," where the criminal underworld and Mandalorians, led by Din, would go take back the homeworld of Mandalore. The following arc would be about a cultural change, and a consolidation of power - Fennec and several of Mando's crew would have earned the right to become full Mandalorians under Din's faction's rules, but the rules of the planet are different. Political intrigue and compromises ensue, and then it's time to pass on the roles of Mandalore and Daimyo to others, and head back out into the sunset.

    I'm not entirely sold on it, but I think the above would have given some of the plot beats a little more emotional heft, and this would have focused the show a little more than several think it is now. Either way, it was just a thought.
     
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    I hate to keep comparing and I know some of you don't like The Mandalorian either or not as much as I do but this show really makes me want to get back to that show and it's characters or move on to Obi-Wan! I am enjoying TBOBF and it's interesting what they're doing with Boba but I just prefer Din Djarin and am much more intrigued in where he goes as a bounty hunter and Mandalorian without Groku (I'm assuming until the end of the season) and how story involving Bo-Katan and the black saber develops.

    If we are going to spend more time in Tattoine and we are, I much rather check on what Obi-Wan is up to between trilogies!
     
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    I think the show is very good so far.:D
     
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    Interesting..I was sure the sitcom-esque acting and video game side quest like stories were meant to be a complete joke.
     
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    That's an interesting way of looking at it, but I think we have to make a lot of allowances for it to work- and if that's the case, then I'd argue that Fett does matter.

    Plus, I think it's important to consider that Fett hasn't been a protagonist in a medium like this before. It's one thing to see him kick butt in a one shot comic, or to be cool as heck as a side character in a couple Mando episodes. But in his own series... he kinda needs conflict, right? Personally, I'd rather see him start at the bottom and rise against overwhelming adversity than be mowing down all his foes with ease from Episode 1 on.
     
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