George Lucas shared first specifics of the ST

it's fair to say Lucas ST would have brought in Darth Plagueis as the string puller and tied it all in to this stuff on Midichlorians & Whills to flesh out the lore to the fullest. Luke probably would have featured more heavily as well, though you would still have the younger protagonists. so basically way better than what we're getting, lol.

 

I can't agree that it's anything like 'it's fair to say'. Sounds like wild speculation to me.

I don't believe he would have featured more. My recollection from the early days of the sequel trilogy's development (possibly pre-sale to Disney) is that Lucas himself said that the original cast wouldn't be featured heavily and the focus was going to be on the 'new generation'. I'm paraphrasing something I think Lucas said, but it was along the lines of 'It's not their story'.

It was Disney who chose to put them in more featured roles - because they wanted to do 'something for the fans'.

I'd say it's thanks to Disney that we got to see as much of Han and Luke as we did.

I also suspect Lucas would have killed off Luke in the first film of the new trilogy. Probably in some form of self-sacrifice for the greater good. He would have been 'the Ben Kenobi' of the film. Disney made him 'the Yoda'.

 

Looks like George has a new project afterall...

 

I would agree considering a while back Pablo has already stated that Lucas' treatment didn't include DP.

 

George Lucas has had like 80 different treatments for the ST since ROTJ came out.

 

I am a long time Star Wars fan, but I was too young to remember anything about the alleged initial response to TESB. I saw ROTJ in the theater, but I remember the experience as a whole more than the movie itself. I experienced the fan backlash to the SE and the PT, but never shared most of the negative the feelings of the collective.

I really enjoyed most of what GL did with both the SE and the PT, Max Rebo Band and Jar Jar notwithstanding. It always felt to me as though most of the negative overreaction originated in the media rather than with those of us which actually watched the OT every weekend, collected the action figures, read the novels, etc.

Flash forward to the ST and, again, it seems I find myself on the opposite side of the media/collective. I'm having a hard time finding anything lasting to enjoy about this new trilogy. I would like to have hope that they will include more of GL's ideas than it seems, but I don't.

I sincerely wish we were going to get to see GL's vision come to fruition. Nobody tells stories like George and I don't think that fact can be overstated. Even though his vision has evolved significantly over the past 40 years, I tend to believe there is/was a core idea which he was attempting to convey. Further, I believe this core never really changed as much as his strategy for conveying that idea.

The midi-chlorians never bothered me. It would have made much less sense, to me, that, in the technologically advanced culture of the TGFFA, the Galen Ersos wouldn't have been attempting to quantify this phenomenon known as the Force. So this fantasy GFFA version of science refers to the symbiotic organism - who's ubiquitous presence throughout TGFFA results in the generation of the energy field known as the Force - as midi-chlorians. I don't understand why that idea is so repellent to some.

 

Like you I think it unlikely at this stage that TPTB break things down to a smaller Force lore level but...after Luke's first lesson to Rey in TLJ I think it's quite possible that the ST is heading for a new meta-angle on The Force, fate, and "balance".

I wouldn't be surprised if one-with-the-Force Luke or the "young man and woman" uncover a greater "truth" that is still related to a GL based meta-lore idea. He did touch on some varied and out-there ideas in TCW's!

I kinda like the idea that the Jedi Order aren't omnipotent or omniscient despite their longevity and these new kid's on the block like young Skywalker and the next generation can build on their teachers quest for truth, knowledge, and wisdom.

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