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George Lucas "the goal of Anakin is to bring Padmé back from the dead"

Discussion in 'Star Wars: The Last Jedi' started by Niamor, Sep 15, 2017.

  1. Niamor

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    George Lucas "the goal of Anakin is to bring Padmé back from the dead"

    Photoshop mix of Daisy Ridley's face on Padmé in Episode 3:


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    Episode 3 artbook: "no ugly scar for Anakin because he need to be attractive to Padmé, big hair for Padmé, like a lioness, because she's in love with a monster"

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    EPISODE 3 ARTWORK FOR ANAKIN VS. KYLO IN EPISODE 8:

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    JJ Abrams Blu-rey commentary "And clearly you think, well he must be able to just extract the information he wants now. But because he’s taken Rey, you get a sense that there might be something else going on here."

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    Every time the girl is in white and the guy in black/dark, the pattern is: character number 1 says the word "afraid" to character number 2, character number 2 says "afraid" in return to character number 1 in the same scene, in the saga it only happen with these characters: Han/Leia, Anakin/Padmé, Kylo/Rey:

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    In the second film of their trilogy:

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    I'm a bit confused what is the point you are trying to make? Rey is an reincarnation of Padme?
     
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    I believe what he's saying is "Reylo confirmed."
     
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    Basically yeah.
     
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    I am assuming Lucas said this in reference to ROTS.

    So what are you suggesting.

    1- Anakin's ghost is using/possessing Ben to res Padme through Rey.

    2- Or are you suggesting visual similarity of characters and repeating themes are connecting Kylo and Rey similar to Padme and Anakin. In which case why talk about Anakin's motives after she died.
     
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    This reminds me of the interrogation scene, and what sounds like "Padme's Ruminations" playing at one point.
     
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    Good lord no. Only one who cheated death was DP. Qui-Gon learned to still be dead but still speak from beyond.

    How would Sidious know?

    The context of speaking with Anakin refers back to DP.
     
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    Or it's a reference to those ones?

    Master Yoda: See through you, we can.
    Mace Windu: Be mindful of your feelings.
    Ki-Adi-Mundi: Your thoughts dwell on your mother.
    Anakin Skywalker: I miss her.
    Master Yoda: Afraid to lose her, I think, hmm?
    Anakin Skywalker: What has that got to do with anything?
    Master Yoda: Everything! Fear is the path to the Dark Side. Fear leads to anger. Anger leads to hate. Hate leads to suffering.

    Luke: I won't fail you. I'm not afraid.
    Yoda: You will be. You... will... be.​
     
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    Close .

    Rey is Padme's granddaughter.

    Grandmother, Mother, Daughter .

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    The pattern is: character number 1 says the word "afraid" to character number 2, character number 2 says "afraid" in return to character number 1 in the same scene, in the saga it only happen with these characters: Han/Leia, Anakin/Padmé, Kylo/Rey.



    And every time it's between a female in white costume and a guy in black/dark costume, the first two were followed by a kiss, in TFA when Kylo says the word "affraid" to Rey she says "I'm not giving you anything" and Kylo respond "We'll see"... Which is pretty interesting.

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    i agree that Anakin's goal, prompted in AotC and started in RotS, is to either keep Padme from dying, or be able to resurrect her in the case of her death; same probably goes for his mother.

    when Kylo Ren says to Vader's helmet, "I will finish what you started," i wonder at what he intends to finish.

    based on the fact that Anakin was trying to figure out a way to cheat death, i feel it's safe to assume that Kylo Ren means to do the same thing.

    that leads to the question: who has died that Kylo Ren wants to bring back?

    i believe the answer to this has something to do with Rey.

    quick side note, if Kylo Ren were trying to figure out a way to bring people back from the dead, then maybe his killing of Han Solo was actually a calculated risk.
     
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    Yes if you want to look only to "romance/love" scenes.
    Not if you also look to those scenes involving force sensitive people talking about fear.
    And more precisely to those scenes involving force sensitive people hinting at fear as the path to the dark side.
    In fact Rey replys "You are afraid that you'll never be as powefull as Darth Veder"

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    Just another parallel/mirror with Ep. IV.
    In fact (script):

    [Luke] tugs on the rope to make sure it is secure, then grabs the
    princess in his arms.
    Leia looks at Luke, then kisses him
    quickly on the lips. Luke is very surprised.

    Therefore this could be - for some of us - a clue to prove that Kylo and Rey are brother and sister.
    In IV the brother helps the sister to escape from a cell and from the DeathStar (and from Vader = their father)
    In VII the brother kidnaps the sister and he takes her to a cell into the StarKiller Base (in front of their father, Han)
    Perfect mirror.

    Or it may be. All I'm saying is that parallels/mirror scenes may be use to signify many different things.
    So don't take anything for garated.
     
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    But why would Leia not mention a single thing about being pregnant again or have it mentioned anywhere at all, plus why would it be kept such a secret?
     
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    It's just ring theory and parallels. They are all going to rhyme in some way. I bet we could figure out the rest of the story through 9, or at least partially. Just won't be in order and I'm not saying TLJ will be like ESB but, yet similar but different.

    I will bet Rey will be trapped by love of trying to save someone just like Luke, just like Anakin. Could be Finn, could Kylo, not sure yet
     
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    There is over 20 years long gap in the story from the Aftermath to Bloodline.
    I am not sure is this intentional but that is hughe gap about which we don't know, honestly, nothing.
    Personaly, as one who reads this new novels I am buffled by the fact that in the last Aftermath book Ben Solo is born and..then I take next novel in timeline, the Bloodline .. and Ben is already 23 years , grown man, (and not much about him told or heard anyway, and everybody is somewhat silent)....
    For instance Han doesn't mention his belowed Millenium Falcon at all in the Bloodline, though he loves this ship with all its heart, and despiote book implies Falcon has been stollen already years before, not a word from Han or anyone. So maybe they don't speak anymore about some past tragedy which is so painful even to speak of .
     
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    In ancient poetry you have poetic devices called parallels. They are restatements given for emphasis, but changed. Sime expound on a point, some are oppositional. We have watched a ring with the story of 1-6. Now we have begun an oppositional parallel, but it is unfolding simultaneously. Rey and Ben are opposites because they are glimpses the good and evil legacy of Vader. Will Ben achieve his goal of "finishing what Vader started" or will Rey rise from nothing to become a force for good.
     
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    Hope so
    --- Double Post Merged, Sep 16, 2017, Original Post Date: Sep 16, 2017 ---

    As JJ says... MYSTERY BOX!!!
     
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    did you ever hear the tragedy of....
     
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    The only parallel or rhyme I see, is that Anakin turned into a monster, yet Padme still loved him because she was carrying his children. Padme fought earnestly to bring Anakin back to the light, yet the monster (Anakin) attacked a pregnant woman(Padme), causing her eventual death.

    Kylo Ren kidnapped Rey which is a crime, which monsters commit, Rey fought earnestly; stating, "I'm not giving you anything", after seeing Kylo Ren murder his own father (Han was like a father figure to Rey), which is also a crime, Rey called him (Kylo Ren) a monster.

    I don't buy into all this Reylo trash, but if it does indeed come to pass, I hope its done with taste. If its not touched upon at all in TLJ or ep9, I'm gonna celebrate with a lovely bottle of wine. Less than 3 months till we find out who Rey really is and if Reylo is abolished.
     
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    Ben is 23 in Bloodline? I was thinking he was younger than that but then again I haven't read the last Aftermath book so maybe I am missing something.
     
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