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George Lucass Star Wars Sequel Trilogy Treatments Also Had Luke Skywalker Dying in Episode VIII

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  1. SWNN Probe

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    A highly criticized moment in the Star Wars sequel trilogy was the death of Luke Skywalker in Star Wars: The Last Jedi. Well, according to Lucasfilm Creative Executive Pablo Hidalgo's new book Star Wars: Fascinating Facts, George Lucas had Luke Skywalker die in the treatment of his Episode VIII as well.



    On page 140 of the book, Hidalgo reveals 'Luke Skywalker's Destiny', which was written years before production began on the actual Episode VIII. It confirms that George Lucas had Luke Skywalker die in the middle chapter of his sequel trilogy story too. Now, how he designed his death is unknown but it appears Luke was destined to become one with the Force in Episode VIII regardless of who was making the film. It is possible Kathleen Kennedy and Rian Johnson felt a higher sense of confidence in the decision to kill Luke knowing that the maker himself had made the decision first. Here is an image of the page posted by Twitter user @Oozer.



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    George Lucas is on record that he gave his treatments to Kathleen Kennedy and Disney but that they chose not to use his stories. However, it appears that at least some things remained the same, including a big decision regarding the time Luke Skywalker would become one with the Force.



    The book is full of interesting anecdotes and facts about the history of Star Wars and what some could refer to as 'what could have been.' But either way, it appears to be a must own for fans of the franchise, especially the history of the franchise behind the scenes.



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    Star Wars: Fascinating Facts by Pablo Hidalgo was released October 13 by Simon & Schuster.



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    NO! It was all Ruin Johnson dammit!

    The StarWarz69 YouTube channel told me so!
     
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    So looks like TLJ used the most of George's ideas compared to the other 2 movies, interesting. I said this before and i'll stand by it but TLJ is closer to the type of film George would of made compared to TFA. Instead of "poop" jokes we got "your mama" jokes.
     
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    And yet the "George Lucas needs to save Star Wars" crowd almost unilaterally dislikes TLJ....
    Quite interesting indeed
     
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    Totally. I know this is an "what if" but I honestly think people wouldn't like George's version of the ST had he made it. However, they maybe little bit more forgiving since it came from the creator directly, not from a 3rd party so to speak.
     
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    I think you are right on the money.
    And a lot of it depends on which Lucas ST we got. He had several plans.
    The microscopic exploration of midichlorians? That gets a big yikes from most people I would think.

    Thought Osmosis Jones taught us people didn't want that
     
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    I think he would've further explored midichlorians, but it wouldn't have been the focus. I mean, it still would've been a popcorn Star Wars movie first: a lightsaber fight, space battles, the whole 9 yards. Personally, I'd love a main story where it actually uses midichlorians.
     
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    I'd agree except he's said in interviews it'd be the focus.
     
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    Literally or metaphorically? It could just simply be about "working together for mutual advantage."
     
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    I like the TLJ, but I'd take George's version of episode 8 over it any day.
     
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    I’m surprised by how surprised people are by this?

    I though it was common knowledge George’s VII pitch was similar to The Last Jedi?

    I’m sure I read an article about it years ago. It basically said George pitched his idea but JJ & Kasdan threw it out. Then Rian came in to do VIII and picked up some of the ideas that had been originally intended for VII...

    George’s reaction to the films would serve as some proof of this. He was critical of TFA (which didn’t use his pitch) and was very complimentary about TLJ and Rian (which used his initial pitch as inspiration).
     
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    Well....

     
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    Well, well. I wonder what TFM has to say about this?
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    They might be a bit more forgviing if it was a straight up pop corn film a la Michael Bay/Clone Wars. But not if George had attempted to make it as cerebral and nuanced as Rian did (which I suspect he would have attempted).
     
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    Osmosis Jones was the greatest movie ever! "Drix! Stop dancing!"
     
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    I always expected Luke to die. Mark is not getting any younger and fully expected a limited force ghost. Even when TLJ was in production he shared an image of his cape hung up and I was like, here we go. Some where suggesting it was Rey's poncho when it was clearly a lot longer, different materials and a different colour. I think I even posted that on here. We also had a poster on the forum who had personal snaps and went to Ireland herself. She was the biggest Mark Hamill / Luke fan and she already new Luke was dead even back then. But fans couldn't accept that. For me this was never the big problem for me. It was how he died and how Luke was portrayed. Drinking animal breast milk and the throwing the lightsaber was unfunny and trying to kill 'Ben'? How? when Luke was the most compassionate character that saved his father from darkness, the very darkness he nearly succumbed to? One who would walked that path and understood that journey? It's out of character he would not have gone creeping into his nephew's bedroom. Besides he could have sensed and looked into his mind without even been in the hut. So that also doesn't make sense either. Luke been depressed could have worked but the TLJ arc? I didn't like his trajectory and then he died. I would have preferred a better death and story arc. The criticism that people wanted god tier Luke and have him hijack the plot was also bothersome. So am in the middle. Yes I wanted better for Luke but I fully understand and expected his death. Rian & Lucas were right but am pretty sure George would have had a better story.
     
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