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Gina Carano Opens up About Her Exit From The Mandalorian

Discussion in 'SWNN News Feed' started by SWNN Probe, Feb 20, 2021.

  1. Andrew Waples

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    Well, I don't think casting directors care necessarily about people's politics. That's above their pay grade. Even then this is one's fault but Gina's.
     
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    Part of a casting director's job is judging how well the person fits with the production and studio. That is absolutely part of their job.
    If you have a casting director not doing that, then you have an absolute s**** casting director.

    The entire purpose of a casting director is to not only pick good talent, but have a keen sense of who is a good fit for who - who would work well with the director, who would work well with the other actors, who would be able to play dice on this kind of gig, who plays well with the studio's politics, etc...

    That's why casting directors are seen as gold in the industry, and have for ages been seen that way.

    So, no - it's absolutely partly their fault regardless how you do business, and if it was my company, I'd be strongly hammering on them and letting them know they're marked and tallies are being kept, because you can't afford to just hire anyone. You need to accurately pick the right people up front or else you're blowing huge chunks of our money when we have fall-out.

    That's really a huge part of a casting director's job - building a good team of actors.
    Failing to do that is absolutely your responsibility.

    I don't care about the actors. Yes, they are responsible for their behavior, just as any employee is, but if your HR hired someone with a criminal record for stealing, and then you have them fired because they stole, then you better believe that HR is getting its' rear end chewed off for letting that person through the door.

    It's not much different here. The main difference is we're talking about conduct and social media and not crime, and contracts with conduct and social media clauses and not laws against criminal actions.

    So yes, I would absolutely be talking with the casting director...I'd also be chewing out the HR department at Disney for not flagging the prospective employee to the casting director, because if the casting director didn't catch it...sheesh, HR sure as heck should have caught it.

    That Disney doesn't have this just absolutely nailed down at this point and only has the contracts nailed down is always a point of curiosity to me - they've been at this gig with conduct and social clauses FAR longer than almost any other studio in town, and yet they still don't seem to have their s*** in gear for screening prospective employees. The same crap happens at their theme parks even!

    Come on Disney! Cut out the amateur hour! This is basic MEDIUM business 101, let alone big business!

    Cheers,
    Jayson
     
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  3. Andrew Waples

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    Again, what if there was no reason to believe there was a red flag? We don't know what goes on behind the scenes. All this happened after she was hired.
     
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  4. Lord of the Rens

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    Shitcanned Carano Feelz.PNG
    I've often pondered those.... details.
     
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    I think her twitter account is, at best, cautioning for the "Disney image".
    If I were looking for someone who fits in with the Expendables demographic, for instance, a read over of her twitter would tell me that's a pretty solid fit.

    But Disney?
    Her twitter has plenty of expression of what amounts to basically - at the very least - a hard-nosed survival of the fittest personality...and that's putting it mildly, and with a very obvious social media cleaning, and a very obvious campaign to shout out to Disney through plugging little bits about Star Wars leading up to her push for the job that should have - again - at least raised the eyebrow of HR, if not the casting director's office.

    I mean...to see her feeds as Disney image aligned, you'd have to really ignore some clear signs and just focus on the heart emojis and gofundme for cancer shares, but there's quite a bit that should make anyone looking at Disney second guess their consideration there.

    Like I said, though, they're very strange because honestly - Bill Burr is just an explosion waiting to happen if even the slightest thing goes wrong - and he's wide open about his temper and inability to control it; let alone his track record of views and opinions at pretty strong odds against the Disney image.

    As I said before, what Disney is doing recently is definitely weird. Either loosen your clauses, or play tight with your hiring again because this whole swinging around wildly is going to do nothing good for you as a corporation as time moves on.

    Anyway, it doesn't really matter.

    The bottom line with this case is that it's an employee who got fired because they broke the terms of their employment.


    Cheers,
    Jayson
     
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    Yes. They did.
    He apologized in 2012 for the same tweets.
    Rob Cernovich a bad faith political actor brought them back up in 2018 to get back at Gunn over his political beliefs.
    Gunn was fired. He accepted it. Made a public statement admitting his mistake (again) and didn't pass blame to anyone or a boogeyman that doesn't exist.
    He was then re-hired.

    You keep bringing up Gunn but you really don't know anything about the situation it seems
     
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    I never accused you of wanting it. But when I see two posts in quick succession trying to pre-empt the next focus of the supposed "culture war" and everyone's disgust and ire, and inviting us to do the same, you can forgive me for reading the tone as less than optimistic.
     
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  8. Andrew Waples

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    Even though Disney is mega corporation, they're still run by humans, and humans make mistakes. You're acting as though they didn't interview her and just hired her on the spot.
     
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    No.
    I'm saying a mistake was made and that ultimately I could care less about the employee. I would be looking at what went wrong with correctly screening.

    Cheers,
    Jayson
     
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    Dawson and her family were sued for an alleged verbal and physical transphobic attack. Something that should be alarming to anyone. To my knowledge, it never really got anywhere and last year 18 of the 20 accusations were dropped. It's likely we're never going to find out the truth, one would hope there's no truth to it. Disney decided to hire her while she was smack dab in the middle of it all despite protest from people. This wasn't something that started after she was cast or has only surfaced in the wake of the Gina news. Dawson as Ahsoka has been a casting choice many have dreamed of for years and the rumblings that it might actually happen started long before she was cast, long before she was sued. As soon as the news of the lawsuit hit in October 2019, months before the casting announcement, people took to Twitter and voiced their opinion and hope that Disney wouldn't hire her given the rampant rumors... and despite that... they still did. Why? Because unlike Gina, this was the only blemish, albeit a very serious one, on an otherwise stellar record and regardless of whether it was true or not, she owned up to it.

    This "mob" that people speak of, does it exist? Sure... but it has far less power and success than people think it does. They didn't get Gina fired, Gina got Gina fired. Any person who you think the mob has successfully taken down was going to be taken down regardless because of their own actions. When people voiced displeasure with her opinions, instead of ignoring them, she doubled down. When she said something that hurt people, instead of apologizing or ignoring them, she pushed back. When people pushed back at her, she played victim. She got so embroiled in drama, much of which she caused herself, that it became impossible to separate her from it and it left Disney with no choice.

    There's no point in making comparisons to other people, or wondering why this person is still employed while Gina isn't. The situations aren't the same.
     
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    Rosario Dawson is a great actor, she's good in everything she does. Great to have her in Star Wars!
     
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    Cope harder next time. In 2018, Disney used the word "discovered" - {btw, how's that 2012 vetting looking now?}...

    So, it seems I'm not the only one who doesn't know anything.

    EDIT: Almost forgot - James Gunn also tweeted about Jews and ovens.
    So there's that.
     
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    i suspect we’re at that point bro ;)
     
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    NUKE THE THREAD WE MUST
     
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    @Lord of the Rens, @RoyleRancor

    Alright, cool, looks like you've both shared your perspectives. Seems like a great time to carry on to other things.
     
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    OK let me say this once and for all, since apparently people think I'm condoning the Dawson thing: I'm not making comparisons, not rooting for a firing, not encouraging anyone. I'M NOT FOR IT!! (As I've said prior.) I was simply commenting on the fact that a few days ago I saw this very topic trending on Twitter. That's all I said. It was an observation. The end.
     
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    Apologies, I never meant to infer you were condoning it. I was more of the belief that perhaps you didn't know exactly why she was trending but honestly... that wasn't really cool of me either. And as far as the second paragraph and last sentence go, I wasn't really speaking to you there, more so the people who I have seen make comparisons on here or on Twitter, should've made that clearer.
     
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    these actors need to stay off twitter. I do, its just a mess. I don't need an actor's political opinions they're not politicians so I stay off twitter looking forward to the Ahsoka series with much anticipation... who's next? I hope twitter doesn't ruin Star Wars...
     
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    No problem, Flyboy. Thanks. We cool!
     
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